ABEL\'S UNIVERSE (General)
I'm going to try and form some coherence out of Abel's posts by taking what I consider to be salient points, grouping them by topics, and then responding or commenting. This will likely take a couple of posts, so please bear with me. Some of these quotes will come under multiple topics as I think they apply.
Early Universe - Life/Evolution - Abiogenesis
Abel Quotes:
For abiogenesis to occur the entropy induced by simple kinetics would have to minimal (but not zero).
When abiogenesis occurred it happened in a much larger pool of matter, over a much longer period of time, someplace where entropy was not tearing every macromolecule to shreds before the first chapter of the book of life could be written.
This first cell was simple. The first race is complex and advanced.
If I don't believe that abiogenesis occured in matter as we understand it, it must have occurred in matter of a type that we don't understand. This, of course, is dark matter.
By my calculations, dark matter is only subject to about 2% of the effects of earth's gravitational field. If we are only subject to 2% of dark matter's gravitational field, then there is 50 times more dark matter in the universe that we even suspect.
I will define dark matter as "temporally saturated matter" and matter as we understand it to be "temporally polarized matter". And for the sake of future discussions: "time is not suspended in space" but rather "space is suspended in time".
In the beginning there was only darkness and time.
In the beginning there was only darkness and time. What we now know to be our universe, was linearly motionless, spinning about a zero point in space and time. Each of its' dimensions balanced in a quantum dance between where it was and where it will be. Its' only energetic emissions are the spiraling waveforms of time itself and gravity (if this in not just an expression of temporal energy-as I suspect it might be). But far away in this unfathomable vastness of darkness and time another much vaster universe spun. Eventually the gravity of that universe reached ours, causing it to move. Initially this movement was through time itself (the fastest, easiest way to move). But eventually a temporal speed limit was reached as the positive dimensions of energetic space "grew" to their maximum temporal length and width. When this happened the quadrants of matter/time that hosted the temporal particles necessary to alter that matter type's spacial relationship to time was lost, emitting two particles and two antiparticles and initiating a chain reaction that created light and kinetic entropy.
In the beginning, the universe was purely quantum in nature, utterly perfect. Every action and reaction was digital, either yes or no. Things only happen in exact places, at exact times, in exact fashions or they don't happen at all.
After untold aeons, temporally saturated stardust containing the elements of life from some long-dead supernova gathered on what was most probably a gas giant in a close orbit around a star. It is upon this world, in the homochiralic pools of life blocks that swirled there, that life began. After many more aeons those simple life forms there evolved into a race of sentient beings.
In a high-entropy system such as ours there is a metabolic advantage to simplicity that off-sets any advantage provided by complexity.
The catabolic power that an organism produces must equal or exceed the metabolic power that it consumes (its' metabolic load) or it will die by a process of energetic depletion. Replication/reproduction greatly increases those needs, a hostile environment will increase them as well.
The first and primary drive for this change are those monkeys furiously pounding away at their typewriters. In this low-entropy environment the advantages conferred by complexity far outweighed its' disadvantages so each of these chapters could be incorporated with little downside to their possession.
Dead things stay dead. (bacteria argument) (no cellular AAA battery)
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Complete thread:
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-16, 14:26
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-16, 14:50
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 15:08
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
DragonsHeart,
2011-11-16, 15:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-16, 16:12
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
DragonsHeart,
2011-11-16, 15:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 16:35
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-16, 17:21
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 16:41
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 17:55
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 01:05
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-17, 01:29
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 03:35
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-17, 15:24
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 20:55
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 21:44
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 22:36
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-18, 00:53
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-18, 00:54
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-18, 14:53
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-18, 15:18
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-18, 19:14
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-18, 20:45
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-18, 19:14
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-19, 01:33
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-19, 01:51
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-19, 02:04
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-19, 02:32
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-19, 03:45
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-19, 04:35
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-19, 04:37
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - David Turell, 2011-11-19, 06:19
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-19, 17:44
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-19, 20:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-19, 20:25
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-20, 00:00
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-20, 00:38
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-20, 03:24
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-20, 04:19
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-20, 05:50
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - David Turell, 2011-11-20, 15:32
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-20, 19:18
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Abel, 2011-11-20, 19:34
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-20, 03:24
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-20, 00:38
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-20, 00:00
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-20, 19:33
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-20, 20:56
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-21, 01:59
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
DragonsHeart,
2011-11-21, 02:20
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-21, 02:41
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-21, 17:28
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-21, 17:38
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-21, 17:28
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-21, 02:41
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
DragonsHeart,
2011-11-21, 02:20
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-19, 20:25
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-19, 20:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-19, 01:51
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-18, 15:18
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-18, 00:53
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 22:36
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 21:44
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 20:55
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
dhw,
2011-11-17, 15:24
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 03:35
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - DragonsHeart, 2011-11-17, 03:19
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 03:24
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 05:19
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - David Turell, 2011-11-17, 14:44
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 05:19
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
BBella,
2011-11-17, 06:08
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - BBella, 2011-11-17, 06:28
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 07:23
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 18:47
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 20:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - BBella, 2011-11-17, 20:51
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-17, 21:29
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
BBella,
2011-11-17, 20:35
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 21:34
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - BBella, 2011-11-18, 06:29
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 21:34
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 20:15
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-17, 18:47
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-17, 01:29
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Abel,
2011-11-17, 01:05
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 17:55
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 16:44
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 18:07
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-16, 18:23
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 20:53
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE - David Turell, 2011-11-16, 21:18
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 20:53
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
David Turell,
2011-11-16, 18:23
- ABEL\'S UNIVERSE -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-16, 18:07