Privileged planet: how CO^2 is a greenhouse gas (Introduction)
Quantum effects:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-pinpoint-the-quantum-origin-of-the-greenhouse...
"In 1896, the Swedish physicist Svante Arrhenius realized that carbon dioxide (CO2) traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere — the phenomenon now called the greenhouse effect. Since then, increasingly sophisticated modern climate models have verified Arrhenius’ central conclusion: that every time the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere doubles, Earth’s temperature will rise between 2 and 5 degrees Celsius.
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"First, in 2022, physicists settled a dispute over the origin of the “logarithmic scaling” of the greenhouse effect. That refers to the way Earth’s temperature increases the same amount in response to any doubling of CO2, no matter the raw numbers.
"Then, this spring, a team led by Robin Wordsworth of Harvard University figured out why the CO2 molecule is so good at trapping heat in the first place. The researchers identified a strange quirk of the molecule’s quantum structure that explains why it’s such a powerful greenhouse gas — and why pumping more carbon into the sky drives climate change.
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"...global warming is tied to a numerical coincidence involving two different ways that CO2 can wiggle.
“'If it weren’t for this accident,” Pierrehumbert said, “then a lot of things would be different.”
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"A key question was the origin of the logarithmic scaling of the greenhouse effect — the 2-to-5-degree temperature rise that models predict will happen for every doubling of CO2. One theory held that the scaling comes from how quickly the temperature drops with altitude. But in 2022, a team of researchers used a simple model to prove that the logarithmic scaling comes from the shape of carbon dioxide’s absorption “spectrum” — how its ability to absorb light varies with the light’s wavelength.
"This goes back to those wavelengths that are slightly longer or shorter than 15 microns. A critical detail is that carbon dioxide is worse — but not too much worse — at absorbing light with those wavelengths. The absorption falls off on either side of the peak at just the right rate to give rise to the logarithmic scaling.
“'The shape of that spectrum is essential,” said David Romps, a climate physicist at the University of California, Berkeley, who co-authored the 2022 paper. “If you change it, you don’t get the logarithmic scaling.”
The carbon spectrum’s shape is unusual — most gases absorb a much narrower range of wavelengths. “The question I had at the back of my mind was: Why does it have this shape?” Romps said. “But I couldn’t put my finger on it.” (my bold)
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"A photon of 15-micron light contains the exact energy required to set the carbon atom swirling about the center point in a sort of hula-hoop motion. Climate scientists have long blamed this hula-hoop state for the greenhouse effect, but — as Ångström anticipated — the effect requires too precise an amount of energy, Wordsworth and his team found. The hula-hoop state can’t explain the relatively slow decline in the absorption rate for photons further from 15 microns, so it can’t explain climate change by itself.
"The key, they found, is another type of motion, where the two oxygen atoms repeatedly bob toward and away from the carbon center, as if stretching and compressing a spring connecting them. This motion takes too much energy to be induced by Earth’s infrared photons on their own.
"But the authors found that the energy of the stretching motion is so close to double that of the hula-hoop motion that the two states of motion mix with one another. Special combinations of the two motions exist, requiring slightly more or less than the exact energy of the hula-hoop motion.
"This unique phenomenon is called Fermi resonance after the famous physicist Enrico Fermi, who derived it in a 1931 paper. But its connection to Earth’s climate was only made for the first time in a paper last year by Shine and his student, and the paper this spring is the first to fully lay it bare."
Comment: Note my bold. Is C0^2 so unusual a gas because it was designed to be different? Without global warming we wouldn't be here. This is another of Gould's 'contingencies' for life to occur.
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David Turell,
2024-09-15, 18:30
- Privileged planet:invisible electric field found surrounding -
David Turell,
2024-08-30, 17:52
- Privileged planet: elliptical orbit is vital -
David Turell,
2024-08-10, 15:24
- Privileged planet: how CO^2 is a greenhouse gas -
David Turell,
2024-08-08, 18:57
- Privileged planet: seafloor oxygen production -
David Turell,
2024-07-22, 18:06
- Privileged planet: how we got water -
David Turell,
2024-07-16, 19:00
- Privileged planet: influence of oxygen levels -
David Turell,
2024-07-08, 15:57
- Privileged planet: earliest water even earlier -
David Turell,
2024-07-02, 15:45
- Privileged planet: so many fungus among us -
David Turell,
2024-06-21, 22:06
- Privileged planet: nitrous oxide breathers found -
David Turell,
2024-06-21, 21:30
- Privileged Planet: new inner layer found -
David Turell,
2024-06-15, 14:59
- Privileged Planet: more about oxidation event -
David Turell,
2024-06-12, 17:56
- Privileged Planet: the effect of interstellar clouds -
David Turell,
2024-06-11, 20:34
- Privileged Planet: earliest water -
David Turell,
2024-06-03, 18:09
- Privileged Planet: plate tectonics driving evolution -
David Turell,
2024-05-31, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: very early water -
David Turell,
2024-05-14, 14:43
- Privileged Planet: oldest Antarctic ice studied -
David Turell,
2024-04-26, 15:30
- Privileged Planet: worms' contribution to soils -
David Turell,
2024-03-11, 22:36
- Privileged Planet: wandering CO2 levels -
David Turell,
2024-03-11, 21:07
- Privileged Planet: how quantum effects of CO2 warm us -
David Turell,
2024-02-15, 16:55
- Privileged Planet: a reminder of the moon's contribution -
David Turell,
2024-02-08, 19:38
- Privileged Planet: another review -
David Turell,
2024-02-03, 04:12
- Privileged Planet: enough oxygen -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 20:02
- Privileged Planet: core movements -
David Turell,
2024-01-07, 16:19
- Privileged Planet: deep plate studies -
David Turell,
2023-10-29, 18:59
- Privileged Planet: our rocks are different -
David Turell,
2023-10-19, 17:12
- Privileged Planet: how plants changed it -
David Turell,
2023-09-13, 17:12
- Privileged Planet: hot period forty million years ago -
David Turell,
2023-09-03, 17:06
- Privileged Planet: life before plate tectonics -
David Turell,
2023-06-17, 15:22
- Privileged Planet: became a watery planet quickly -
David Turell,
2023-06-14, 17:40
- Privileged Planet: shorter days in the past -
David Turell,
2023-06-12, 20:33
- Privileged Planet: the role of iron rich rocks -
David Turell,
2023-06-11, 19:05
- Privileged Planet: contribution of amazing ancient moss -
David Turell,
2023-05-09, 23:17
- Privileged Planet: how our planet cleans itself -
David Turell,
2023-04-08, 02:58
- Privileged Planet: plate tectonics add water -
David Turell,
2023-04-01, 16:55
- Privileged Planet: Inner inner core -
David Turell,
2023-02-22, 15:23
- Privileged Planet: Internal temperature extremely hot -
David Turell,
2023-02-18, 19:25
- Privileged Planet: great oxidation event came earlier -
David Turell,
2023-02-12, 16:34
- Privileged Planet: moon causes magnetosphere tides -
David Turell,
2023-02-06, 17:19
- Privileged Planet: outer solar system supplied our water -
David Turell,
2023-02-04, 16:15
- Privileged Planet: life makes soil from rock -
David Turell,
2023-02-02, 16:06
- Privileged Planet: source of volatile elements -
David Turell,
2023-01-29, 19:43
- Privileged Planet: fairly constant temperature range -
David Turell,
2023-01-28, 17:05
- Privileged Planet: inner core rotation? -
David Turell,
2023-01-23, 18:30
- Privileged Planet: life transformed early Earth -
David Turell,
2023-01-16, 18:22
- Privileged Planet: much of our water present at start -
David Turell,
2022-12-17, 15:14
- Privileged Planet: nitrogen cycle -
David Turell,
2022-09-20, 17:53
- Privileged Planet: how continents were formed -
David Turell,
2022-09-20, 16:09
- Privileged Planet: how continents were formed -
David Turell,
2022-08-12, 18:54
- Privileged Planet: red giant contributions -
David Turell,
2019-12-10, 18:48
- Privileged Planet: continental drift -
David Turell,
2019-02-18, 15:22
- Privileged Planet: another summary of evidence -
dhw,
2018-12-23, 09:36
- Privileged Planet: another summary of evidence -
David Turell,
2018-12-22, 19:29
- Privileged Planet: our sun is different than most stars -
David Turell,
2018-08-09, 00:32
- Privileged Planet: must have water -
David Turell,
2017-07-31, 18:29
- Privileged Planet: complete eclipses -
David Turell,
2017-06-27, 15:00
- Privileged Planet:Third book -
David Turell,
2014-03-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet:Third book -
David Turell,
2014-03-07, 18:10
- Privileged Planet: Sunburn protection -
David Turell,
2014-03-07, 01:38
- Privileged Planet: New study -
Balance_Maintained,
2013-05-12, 06:08
- Privileged Planet: New study -
David Turell,
2013-05-11, 15:59
- Privileged Planet: New study -
xeno6696,
2012-05-01, 17:16
- Privileged Planet: New study -
dhw,
2012-05-01, 16:53
- Privileged Planet: Geologic carbon cycle -
David Turell,
2014-03-20, 16:56
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet: Dangerous Electrons blocked - David Turell, 2014-11-27, 14:48
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-12-11, 15:09
- Privileged Planet: Self-made water? -
David Turell,
2014-12-17, 15:48
- Privileged Planet: Mineral evolution -
David Turell,
2015-02-21, 14:37
- Privileged Planet: hard to fnd one like us -
David Turell,
2015-06-01, 04:14
- Privileged Planet: formation of continents -
David Turell,
2015-06-27, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: particle protection -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 21:22
- Privileged Planet: ocean microbe controls - David Turell, 2019-08-08, 00:06
- Privileged Planet: particle protection -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 21:22
- Privileged Planet: formation of continents -
David Turell,
2015-06-27, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: hard to fnd one like us -
David Turell,
2015-06-01, 04:14
- Privileged Planet: Mineral evolution -
David Turell,
2015-02-21, 14:37
- Privileged Planet: Self-made water? -
David Turell,
2014-12-17, 15:48
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water - David Turell, 2021-03-10, 14:25
- Privileged Planet: carbon cycle under ice sheets -
David Turell,
2019-08-17, 14:50
- Privileged Planet: a brief summary of why it is -
David Turell,
2019-10-23, 21:58
- Privileged Planet: life's metabolism before oxygen -
David Turell,
2019-11-07, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: snowball Earth had a source of oxygen: - David Turell, 2019-12-04, 05:38
- Privileged Planet: life's metabolism before oxygen -
David Turell,
2019-11-07, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: a brief summary of why it is -
David Turell,
2019-10-23, 21:58
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet: New study -
dhw,
2012-04-26, 14:12