Privileged Planet: oldest Antarctic ice studied (Introduction)
Deep bores into blue ice:
https://www.sciencemagazinedigital.org/sciencemagazine/library/item/26_april_2024/41907...
"Samples of eerie blue glacial ice from Antarctica are a staggering 6 million years old, scientists announced last week, more than doubling the previous record for Earth’s oldest ice. The ice opens a new window on Earth’s ancient climate—one that isn’t exactly what scientists expected.
"Bubbles in the ice trap air from the Pliocene epoch, a time before the ice ages when the planet was several degrees warmer than today and carbon dioxide (CO2) levels may have been just as high as they are now. But an initial analysis of bubbles between 2.7 million and 1 million years old suggests CO2 levels were rather low in the late Pliocene and only sank slightly as the ice ages began, and Earth headed toward a dramatic climate shift that caused ice ages to grow longer and deeper.
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"Finding ice this old is “fantastic,” says Eric Wolff, a paleoclimatologist at the University of Cambridge who wasn’t involved in the work. The climate clues in the oldest ice samples—those between 3 million and 6 million years old—might have been corrupted when the ice interacted with bedrock. But younger samples offer an unprecedented set of climate snapshots from an ancient world, Wolff adds. “Nothing’s quite as direct as actually taking a bubble, snapping it open, and putting it straight into a mass spectrometer.”
"Most scientific drillers target ice in the deep Antarctic interior, where snow accumulates year after year and, crushed under its own weight, gets squeezed into tidy layers of ice that preserve a continuous archive of ancient air bubbles. But the oldest of these continuous cores, exhumed in 2004, taps out at 800,000 years.
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"In 2019, the COLDEX team reported on ice as old as 2.7 million years, including an analysis of greenhouse gases in air bubbles as old as 1.5 million years. Now, the team has gone back to Allan Hills and retrieved even older ice. To date the ice, Sarah Shackleton, a paleoclimatologist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, and colleagues at Princeton University analyzed the argon isotopes contained in the remaining air bubbles. The technique consumes a lot of the ice, leaving little of a standard 8-centimeter core left over for other analyses of the same ice layer. For now, the team has only drilled small cores of the 6-million-year-old ice, so its age is all they know, Brook says. They’re heading back to Antarctica next austral summer to retrieve larger samples.
"But last season, Brook and his colleagues managed to drill jumbo cores of ice as old as 3 million years. These cores, as wide as a dinner plate, yielded hundreds of samples of ancient air—including the first ever from the Pliocene, which ended about 2.6 million years ago. “It’s a unique snapshot,” says paleoclimatologist Hubertus Fischer of the University of Bern, who was not involved in the work.
"Scientists think high levels of CO2 were responsible for the Pliocene’s warmth. Proxy data from sediment cores, such as the chemical compositions of the shells of tiny marine algae and plant leaf waxes, suggest CO2 was probably about as high as today’s unnaturally elevated level, 425 parts per million (ppm). But not one blue ice sample older than 1 million years exceeded 300 ppm, says Julia Marks Peterson, a paleoclimatologist at OSU who performed the greenhouse gas analysis.
"The greenhouse gas data also raise questions about a mysterious climate shift that began about 1.2 million years ago. At this time, something caused the ice ages to grow longer and more intense, stretching out from mild 40,000-year cycles to deeper 100,000-year cycles. The leading theory for this flip is that CO2 levels dropped, allowing ice sheets to grow too thick to melt away on a 40,000-year cycle. A new climate record from clues preserved in sediment cores, reported in February, supports that picture. But the snapshots across the transition found in the blue ice suggest CO2 levels held steady between about 220 ppm and 250 ppm. “We don’t see much change in CO2,” Marks Peterson says. “That doesn’t mean there wasn’t one. But it might be smaller than we expected.”
"To find out what really triggered the ice age shift, researchers want a continuous core that covers the transition. Finding such a core “is kind of the holy grail of understanding whether the CO2 was part of this change,” Wolff says.
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"...few think the center of the continent holds continuous ice much older than 1.5 million years. “You’re certainly not going to get many millions of years,” Fischer says. That means the warmer Pliocene climate—and its clues to our warming future—will be the sole preserve of blue ice deposits.
"That alone makes this blue ice special, Marks Peterson says. “It’s really rare to be an ice core scientist who’s studying the Pliocene.'”
Comment: this is exciting new research opening up the past climate history of this planet. It is amazing how humans invent new ways to make these studies. All based on older techniques. Mass spectrometers date back to initial discovery work in the 1880's.
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David Turell,
2024-08-10, 15:24
- Privileged planet:invisible electric field found surrounding -
David Turell,
2024-08-30, 17:52
- Privileged planet: plate tectonics drive evolution -
David Turell,
2024-09-15, 18:30
- Privileged planet: source of necessary metals -
David Turell,
2024-10-12, 20:21
- Privileged planet: molybdenum and nitrogen fixing - David Turell, 2024-10-31, 18:11
- Privileged planet: source of necessary metals -
David Turell,
2024-10-12, 20:21
- Privileged planet: plate tectonics drive evolution -
David Turell,
2024-09-15, 18:30
- Privileged planet:invisible electric field found surrounding -
David Turell,
2024-08-30, 17:52
- Privileged planet: elliptical orbit is vital -
David Turell,
2024-08-10, 15:24
- Privileged planet: how CO^2 is a greenhouse gas -
David Turell,
2024-08-08, 18:57
- Privileged planet: seafloor oxygen production -
David Turell,
2024-07-22, 18:06
- Privileged planet: how we got water -
David Turell,
2024-07-16, 19:00
- Privileged planet: influence of oxygen levels -
David Turell,
2024-07-08, 15:57
- Privileged planet: earliest water even earlier -
David Turell,
2024-07-02, 15:45
- Privileged planet: so many fungus among us -
David Turell,
2024-06-21, 22:06
- Privileged planet: nitrous oxide breathers found -
David Turell,
2024-06-21, 21:30
- Privileged Planet: new inner layer found -
David Turell,
2024-06-15, 14:59
- Privileged Planet: more about oxidation event -
David Turell,
2024-06-12, 17:56
- Privileged Planet: the effect of interstellar clouds -
David Turell,
2024-06-11, 20:34
- Privileged Planet: earliest water -
David Turell,
2024-06-03, 18:09
- Privileged Planet: plate tectonics driving evolution -
David Turell,
2024-05-31, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: very early water -
David Turell,
2024-05-14, 14:43
- Privileged Planet: oldest Antarctic ice studied -
David Turell,
2024-04-26, 15:30
- Privileged Planet: worms' contribution to soils -
David Turell,
2024-03-11, 22:36
- Privileged Planet: wandering CO2 levels -
David Turell,
2024-03-11, 21:07
- Privileged Planet: how quantum effects of CO2 warm us -
David Turell,
2024-02-15, 16:55
- Privileged Planet: a reminder of the moon's contribution -
David Turell,
2024-02-08, 19:38
- Privileged Planet: another review -
David Turell,
2024-02-03, 04:12
- Privileged Planet: enough oxygen -
David Turell,
2024-01-18, 20:02
- Privileged Planet: core movements -
David Turell,
2024-01-07, 16:19
- Privileged Planet: deep plate studies -
David Turell,
2023-10-29, 18:59
- Privileged Planet: our rocks are different -
David Turell,
2023-10-19, 17:12
- Privileged Planet: how plants changed it -
David Turell,
2023-09-13, 17:12
- Privileged Planet: hot period forty million years ago -
David Turell,
2023-09-03, 17:06
- Privileged Planet: life before plate tectonics -
David Turell,
2023-06-17, 15:22
- Privileged Planet: became a watery planet quickly -
David Turell,
2023-06-14, 17:40
- Privileged Planet: shorter days in the past -
David Turell,
2023-06-12, 20:33
- Privileged Planet: the role of iron rich rocks -
David Turell,
2023-06-11, 19:05
- Privileged Planet: contribution of amazing ancient moss -
David Turell,
2023-05-09, 23:17
- Privileged Planet: how our planet cleans itself -
David Turell,
2023-04-08, 02:58
- Privileged Planet: plate tectonics add water -
David Turell,
2023-04-01, 16:55
- Privileged Planet: Inner inner core -
David Turell,
2023-02-22, 15:23
- Privileged Planet: Internal temperature extremely hot -
David Turell,
2023-02-18, 19:25
- Privileged Planet: great oxidation event came earlier -
David Turell,
2023-02-12, 16:34
- Privileged Planet: moon causes magnetosphere tides -
David Turell,
2023-02-06, 17:19
- Privileged Planet: outer solar system supplied our water -
David Turell,
2023-02-04, 16:15
- Privileged Planet: life makes soil from rock -
David Turell,
2023-02-02, 16:06
- Privileged Planet: source of volatile elements -
David Turell,
2023-01-29, 19:43
- Privileged Planet: fairly constant temperature range -
David Turell,
2023-01-28, 17:05
- Privileged Planet: inner core rotation? -
David Turell,
2023-01-23, 18:30
- Privileged Planet: life transformed early Earth -
David Turell,
2023-01-16, 18:22
- Privileged Planet: much of our water present at start -
David Turell,
2022-12-17, 15:14
- Privileged Planet: nitrogen cycle -
David Turell,
2022-09-20, 17:53
- Privileged Planet: how continents were formed -
David Turell,
2022-09-20, 16:09
- Privileged Planet: how continents were formed -
David Turell,
2022-08-12, 18:54
- Privileged Planet: red giant contributions -
David Turell,
2019-12-10, 18:48
- Privileged Planet: continental drift -
David Turell,
2019-02-18, 15:22
- Privileged Planet: another summary of evidence -
dhw,
2018-12-23, 09:36
- Privileged Planet: another summary of evidence -
David Turell,
2018-12-22, 19:29
- Privileged Planet: our sun is different than most stars -
David Turell,
2018-08-09, 00:32
- Privileged Planet: must have water -
David Turell,
2017-07-31, 18:29
- Privileged Planet: complete eclipses -
David Turell,
2017-06-27, 15:00
- Privileged Planet:Third book -
David Turell,
2014-03-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet:Third book -
David Turell,
2014-03-07, 18:10
- Privileged Planet: Sunburn protection -
David Turell,
2014-03-07, 01:38
- Privileged Planet: New study -
Balance_Maintained,
2013-05-12, 06:08
- Privileged Planet: New study -
David Turell,
2013-05-11, 15:59
- Privileged Planet: New study -
xeno6696,
2012-05-01, 17:16
- Privileged Planet: New study -
dhw,
2012-05-01, 16:53
- Privileged Planet: Geologic carbon cycle -
David Turell,
2014-03-20, 16:56
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet: Dangerous Electrons blocked - David Turell, 2014-11-27, 14:48
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-12-11, 15:09
- Privileged Planet: Self-made water? -
David Turell,
2014-12-17, 15:48
- Privileged Planet: Mineral evolution -
David Turell,
2015-02-21, 14:37
- Privileged Planet: hard to fnd one like us -
David Turell,
2015-06-01, 04:14
- Privileged Planet: formation of continents -
David Turell,
2015-06-27, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: particle protection -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 21:22
- Privileged Planet: ocean microbe controls - David Turell, 2019-08-08, 00:06
- Privileged Planet: particle protection -
David Turell,
2017-02-16, 21:22
- Privileged Planet: formation of continents -
David Turell,
2015-06-27, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: hard to fnd one like us -
David Turell,
2015-06-01, 04:14
- Privileged Planet: Mineral evolution -
David Turell,
2015-02-21, 14:37
- Privileged Planet: Self-made water? -
David Turell,
2014-12-17, 15:48
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water - David Turell, 2021-03-10, 14:25
- Privileged Planet: carbon cycle under ice sheets -
David Turell,
2019-08-17, 14:50
- Privileged Planet: a brief summary of why it is -
David Turell,
2019-10-23, 21:58
- Privileged Planet: life's metabolism before oxygen -
David Turell,
2019-11-07, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: snowball Earth had a source of oxygen: - David Turell, 2019-12-04, 05:38
- Privileged Planet: life's metabolism before oxygen -
David Turell,
2019-11-07, 18:19
- Privileged Planet: a brief summary of why it is -
David Turell,
2019-10-23, 21:58
- Privileged Planet: Lots of water -
David Turell,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Privileged Planet: New study -
dhw,
2012-04-26, 14:12