The Big Bang (Origins)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, May 06, 2010, 20:07 (5313 days ago) @ dhw

dhw, 
> Do you mean that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe, but there was a conscious intelligence (God) that organized it? If so, there has to be a temporal "before", since a cause must precede an effect, and the something that existed before was God (your "First Cause"). If my interpretation is correct, quite apart from the insurmountable problem of where God sprang from, we are left with the image of a conscious intelligence that has no beginning, stuck nowhere/nowhen until 13.7 billion years ago it suddenly hits on the idea of creating a universe out of nothing. Far be it from me, as a non-scientist, to push other theories, but I'd have thought the bouncing universe concept would at least allow God to be a little less moribund. 
> -Or there's the other interpretation, the one everyone here hates, that states that if the universe before the big bang was a single qubit (as Seth Lloyd discusses) and it was in a state of quantum flux (indeterminancy) than this means that there is no solution to the problem of cause; for in quantum mechanics the act of observing a system destroys the system. Like Buddhists of old, we simply recognize that no solution exists and carry on our way...

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