Information as the source of life; not by chance II (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 15:15 (1760 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: There is no information argument for God. The argument for God is quite simply that living organisms are too complex to have come into existence by chance, i.e. they must have been designed, i.e. there must be a designer. The very fact that the “information” argument causes such confusion and so many obfuscations in its attempts to present this same case should be enough to put you off trying to use it.

DAVID: The confusion is yours. The argument is simple. Instructional information underlying the complex processes, and designed to create life, implies a mind must have created it. This is a prime ID tenet.

dhw: We dealt with this. Why do you have to call it “instructional information”, thereby necessitating the definition of different kinds of information? What is the difference between instructional information and instructions? Instructions CONTAIN information, so to avoid all the confusion, why don’t you just say that the instructions contained in DNA are too complex to have come about by chance and therefore they must have been designed, and therefore there must be a designer. Why do you try to defend the ridiculous heading of this thread when you have already agreed that information is not the source of life. According to you the source of life is the creator of the instructions. Too simple for you?

I'm sorry the word 'information' as ID uses it bothers you. From this statement you obviously understand the reasoning, but do not like the way it is stated. All beside the point. The information exists and we have debated the source.


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