God and Evolution of the universe (Introduction)
QUOTES: The study revealed how the gas and energy expelled by stars are returned to the universe, and in what forms. It found that the elements produced by dying stars are transferred through a process of fragmentation and recycled into new stars and planets.
"Professor Smith said: "Initially, we were perplexed by the results of our simulations. We needed to understand what happens to the expelled shells from dying red giants. We proposed that the shells must be temporary, as if they stayed intact life could not exist in our universe and our planets would be unoccupied. (dhw’s bold)
dhw: How many of our planets does he think are occupied?
"'The shells are not uniform. Most are likely to be cold and molecular. They disintegrate into protruding fingers and so lose their integrity. In contrast, warm atomic shells remain intact. This provides vital clues about how carbon and other materials are transferred and reused within our universe Our civilization happens to exist when the generation of recycled material is at its highest. That is probably no coincidence.'" (DAVID’s bold)
DAVID: I view this as God at work evolving the universe for life to exist.
dhw: But then the question arises as to why your always-in-control God has created all the “cold and molecular” shells, and why there are so many planets that appear to be unoccupied – indeed as far as we know, ours is the only planet that IS occupied. If we think of the universe as an eternally and infinitely changing mass of materials, it is not that difficult to conceive of the “coincidence” eventually happening.
First, according to Big Bang theory the universe is not eternal. Second, we find the Earth is most unusual among planets, and we know it supports life. Since I view God as preferring to evolve his creations, the idea of the article makes lots of sense. Further, note the bold, you are still touting the idea of why did God bother to do so much a forehand, still asking for direct creation, not supported by history.
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