God and Evolution (Introduction)
DHW: I don’t know why you think epigenetics runs counter to the theory of common descent, since it only explains how existing organs can make changes to themselves. As regards genes, I’m surprised that similar (or the same) genes preclude relationship. Why? I’d have thought it was the similarity or the sameness that supported common descent.
Tony: Epigenetics does NOT add new information to DNA, meaning it can not explain an increase in complexity of information.
David: Epigenetics can change the expression of a gene, which means methylation brings out other existing information which the gene contains. This is where I see God's pre-planning.
Precisely. The epigenetic messages act as inputs to the genetic function, thus changing the genes expression(output). Of course, this output is a spatially/chemically precise response, much like the response from a function in a computer program. This response is then forward on to the next generation, and used as the input to the genetic softwares initial startup parameters. It is even conceivable that this mechanism would allow a parents thoughts, hopes, expectations, emotions, habits imprint upon their children through epigentic messaging, and thus the sins of the father pass to the son.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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