More about how evolution works: more on patterns (Evolution)

by David Turell , Saturday, November 10, 2018, 14:58 (2203 days ago) @ dhw

QUOTE: "Widely known simply as the Turing Model, RD is a theoretical construct used to explain self-regulated pattern formation in the developing animal embryo.
"The model, Cooper says, explains the progression of epithelial appendages – external structures such as hair, feathers, scales, spines and teeth – over at least 450 million years, a timeframe that spans the evolution of vertebrates.
"These structures, he says, all possess similar developmental positioning in relation to one another because they grow from a common foundation – the thickened areas of the epithelium known as placodes.

DAVID’s comment: Perhaps the diversity is not as diverse as it appears. More evidence patterns guide evolution. Easy to imagine a designer would set up patterns in advance. It helps explain convergence. (dhw’s bold).

dhw: The article clearly illustrates common descent. I find it easy to imagine self-regulating cells/cell communities combining to form patterns and, as conditions change, changing their patterns in an ongoing process of variation and innovation. I don’t see patterns “guiding” evolution, but evolution resulting from organisms creating and varying patterns. Convergence simply means that organisms develop similar patterns to deal with similar conditions. What I find difficult to imagine is organisms developing (or in your hypothesis being given) new patterns in advance of the conditions that require or allow for change.

DAVID: It may be hard for you to imagine, but imagination is not scientific evidence. I've presented many articles on patterns that are found, like this one.

dhw: A designer setting up patterns in advance may be easy for you to imagine (see my bold), but your imagination is not scientific evidence. I am not questioning the existence of patterns. I am questioning your hypothetical explanation of them, and have offered an alternative which seems to me more logical.

I agree this pattern, as well as others, support common descent, going back 450 million years. As for design, it is set in faith at this point. We reach different logical results.