More about how evolution works: multicellularity (Evolution)

by David Turell , Sunday, November 08, 2015, 16:39 (3301 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Regardless of Simon Conway Morris's beliefs, I'm sorry, but I still can't see how 25 separate evolutions can be taken as evidence for the planning of a single species.
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> DAVID: His book explains his thesis. Of course I feel he makes a strong point: If life's evolution can invent an advance in necessary complexity 5-6 times, as in eye development, and he describes many other convergences, then the process of evolution is programmed to produce the necessary complexity to produce humans. 
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> DAVID: In the past we have discussed a possible 'inventive mechanism'. Conway Morris' convergence is his attempt at that concept. Living organisms have invented the same thing many times over as his book illustrates.
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> Again, I am happy to accept convergence, to which most of your post is devoted. ... If, as a theist, he does not specify his belief in your 3.8-billion-year computer programme for all innovations or that all 25 evolutions of multicellularity were directly dabbled by his God, you cannot call on him for support. -No, he doesn't tell us how it is done, but he believes in humans as the purpose, as 
I do. I don't know how it was done.... so? Of course he supports me! -> 
> DAVID: If the instructions are within the organism for inventions, then they invent. Remember I think the odds are 90% those instructions exist.
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> dhw: The invention is done by the ”mind” that issued the instructions. The odds are 100% that the “instructions” exist, since the inventing took place. The question, as always, is where the instructions came from: your God's 3.8-billion-year programme, his direct intervention, or an autonomous intelligence which he may have invented. -I agree to all of that statement. Now take God away from your statement and tell me how it might have reasonably happened? I don't think you can.