More about how evolution works: multicellularity (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, November 07, 2015, 09:33 (3085 days ago) @ David Turell

QUOTE: “In fact, multicellularity is believed to have evolved as many as 25 different times among living species.”
dhw: Regardless of Simon Conway Morris's beliefs, I'm sorry, but I still can't see how 25 separate evolutions can be taken as evidence for the planning of a single species.
DAVID: You will have to read his book.-I thought you agreed with him. If you do, then please explain why YOU think 25 separate evolutions can be taken as evidence for the planning of a single species. Or do you agree with me that this is illogical and therefore 25 separate evolutions suggest that your theory is wrong?-DAVID: Why don't you comment on the articles I present, like in today's material molecule transport in the cell?
dhw:(“Of course chance invention cannot create this”) does not require further discussion, since we have long since agreed that the complexities of life are not the product of chance.
DAVID: The reason I keep showing the increasing scientific knowledge of the complexity of living matter is to make just that point. Chance doesn't work, so design must happen. You've invented a wild scheme having cells get together and design their future functions and forms.-You are constantly telling me that your all-knowing God is perfectly capable of endowing the first cells with a computer programme for every single innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder to be passed down over some 3,800,000,000 years, and to be switched on in individual organisms whenever the environment is right, even though he may not be in control of the environment. Alternatively, he intervenes to teach the weaverbird how to build its nest, although all he really wants to do is to produce humans. And yet, despite all the evidence of intelligent behaviour from humans right back to microbes, the idea that your God might have designed a form of intelligence to enable organisms to work out their own way to improvement is a “wild scheme”.
 
dhw: Yet another example of symbiosis, in which organisms - including plants - may be said to work out their own ways to survive. But if you believe all the details were planned and included in a computer programme God implanted in the first cells 3.8 billion years ago ... in order to produce humans, so be it.
DAVID: And so it was!-And there you were, complaining that our author was guilty of mere suppositions without proof, and commenting: “I guess he was there watching as multicellularity developed.” Ah well, I guess it was you who were there watching.