Human Consciousness: stimuli, analog to digital (Humans)

by dhw, Friday, September 23, 2016, 12:46 (2734 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: So humans can experience consciousness even when they do not have a brain/receiver, because consciousness is a “separate entity from the brain”. But bacteria cannot experience consciousness because consciousness is not a separate entity from the brain - it requires a brain/receiver. But you can't see any contradiction.-DAVID: My interpretation of NDE research is that the unconscious patient has the episode, but only appreciates it as his brain becomes conscious and receives the episode information back from the separate consciousness which returns to contact with the receiver brain. How else would the patient's consciousness survive the brain's absent function?-What do you mean by “appreciates it”? The patients report the emotions they felt and the conversations they had when they entered the “other world”. If your consciousness is a separate disembodied entity, then it uses your brain to control your body, but it does not need your brain to be you, with the memories, emotions and other immaterial attributes that constitute you. (Please note, I am not taking sides on the issue of dualism; I am merely pointing out the contradiction in your own beliefs.) Here is your concept of the “other world”:
DAVID: As a dualist, I believe when I die my consciousness/soul goes to Heaven intact, no brain required, the consciousness a separate entity from the brain.-If you believe your consciousness is a separate entity from your brain, it is a clear contradiction for you to claim that consciousness cannot exist without a brain. You may believe that your God has preprogrammed every move made by every brainless organism, but that does not remove the contradiction in your thinking.


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