The immensity of the universe (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell , Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 18:39 (3004 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Doesn't fit with atheism at all. All they revel in is chance, nothing directed. I feel it is all directed somehow.
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> dhw: It is the “somehow” that causes the problems. The intricacy of living organisms seems to me to offer a powerful case for belief in design, which you always present with the utmost clarity. The immensity of the universe is a very different proposition, and is a major factor in my non-belief (not disbelief). If your God didn't carefully direct every result, he must have left a lot to chance...... “I feel it is all directed somehow” is no counter to the “infinite number of combinations” argument, which does fit in with atheism, but not with your beliefs as to how your God works. This is not an attack on those beliefs, but an attempt to explain why they are too irrational for me to accept. Unlike the complexities of life, “feel...somehow” is not a very convincing argument.-I can't give you a rational discussion about the evolution of the universe, when I cannot discern God's method. The universe had a creation event and very improbably arriving humans are here with an unexplained form of consciousness far beyond that of other organisms. I think that requires design and guidance, and so I have faith in my decision God did it. The improbable complexity of the universe is fine tuned for life. That is enough for me, but not for you. It sure looks designed. The improbabilities add up. 'Nuff said.