The immensity of the universe (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by dhw, Tuesday, January 19, 2016, 15:22 (3230 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: Which means we have no idea how many billions of supernovas have been spreading the required elements around the universe during the course of eternity, and yet you have expressed the belief that we are the only life in the universe. Oh, what a waste of all those billions of supernovas and galaxies and solar systems and stars and planets... all created by and containing a single mind set only on producing you and me. Faith does not just move mountains - it moves universes. But who knows? Maybe you are right.-DAVID: Without the supernovas there would be no life at all. It takes lots of explosions to spread the necessary elements around to the rocky planets that can support life. And the final evidence is here. We are debating each other. It worked at least once.-A good argument for atheistic chance. Given a potentially infinite number of exploding supernovas, eventually it will work “at least once”. But if you insist on your all-planning God being within and without everything, you are left with not only billions of failed experiments, but also the fact that he is still busy exploding his supernovas and his solar systems, even though according to you he has achieved his purpose. -DAVID: "It is uncontroversial that the human brain has capabilities that are, in some respects, far superior to those of all other known objects in the cosmos.-dhw: Yes, it is uncontroversial, and I really don't know why so many people keep stating what so many other people keep stating. We are very intelligent animals. I'm afraid that doesn't prove that your God exists, or that he blew up the supernova last June, or that the supernova had to be blown up for our benefit or indeed for any other purpose.-DAVID: It still gets back to why is there anything?-Yes indeed. Not just why are there intelligent humans, but why is there anything at all?


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