The immensity of the universe (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell @, Wednesday, January 27, 2016, 00:28 (3222 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: As I noted above. He either created a process which gave the proper final results, or He carefully directed every desired result. Either works for me. He was always in control.
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> dhw: Since no one can read your God's mind, how does anyone know what are the “proper final results”? But I quite like the idea of your God creating a process and NOT carefully directing every desired result, since it fits in perfectly with the hypothesis that he created an autonomous inventive intelligence that produced the vast higgledy-piggledy history of evolution. Similarly, as far as the cosmos is concerned, your comment allows for him to have set off the whole “process” of solar systems and individual stars appearing and disappearing, and to have left it entirely to chance to put all the elements together, since he knew that if he created an infinite number of such systems, eventually one of them would give “the proper final results”. That also fits in perfectly with atheism: given an infinite number of combinations, eventually you are bound to get life and evolution. But then you don't have to call it the proper or desired result. -Doesn't fit with atheism at all. All they revel in is chance, nothing directed. I fell it is all directed somehow.


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