horizontal gene transfer: the real IM? (Introduction)

by BBella , Monday, December 22, 2014, 05:44 (3624 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained


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> > > Tony: Hrmm, but the concept of God, at least from my perspective, is falsifiable. Both by science, Archaeology, and Philosophy. I am not going to hijack this thread derailing into that statement, but yes, there is a means to falsify god, and ironically, God provides the means to falsify him.
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> >David: Please give us your approach. This is an instructional and learning website.
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> The Bible's claim is that it is 100% true. That gives three sets of predictions:
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> The statements regarding science will be 100% accurate. 
> The Statements regarding history will be 100% accurate. 
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> Neither one of those, in of itself prove anything divine, but they do build a record of reliability.
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> The on the proves divine influence is prophecy. Since prophecy, particularly specific prophecies over large time scales have no rational explanation, a 100% accuracy rating is the test of falsifiability.
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> The only scientific statement that I know for certain has yet to be proven is the Flood account. There is a lot of archaeological evidence, but there is a lot of argument over the flood, which, ironically, fulfills a prophecy. :P-Tony, I agree with most of what you say here, though there is one idea I would like to explore more fully. Your claim is that if prophecies have been fulfilled 100% of the time, there is no other "rational" explanation than divine influence. This "rationality" completely hinges on your belief in a divine, biblical God. I've done much study and research as well on the biblical prophecies and agree, from a biblical believer/researcher's standpoint, their fulfillment's do appear to be near 100% - allowing for those yet to be fulfilled. -But, is there really no other "rational" explanation for what appears as prophecies fulfilled over long time scales than a divine, biblical God created all there is and knows all there is and so has divinely inspired a book to prove it? In my mind there are other just as rational explanations. If a mind is open to possibilities (that anything is possible) and looks elsewhere for explanations of how these things can be so, the Ancient Alien, time travel, Angels as Aliens, a connection to the Akashic/Hall of Records, and many more theories seem just as rational to me, if not more rational to me than a divine biblical creator of all that is, comes down in time and inspires stories and prophecies to a tiny new race of humans in all the universe to prove his existence. And then asks for worship and belief, as well as followers. -Unless we know for a fact these other (or any other) possibilities are not so, we cannot know for a fact the Bible is "divinely" written (from a deity) with inspired words. They may seem divinely inspired to us earth humans, because we as a new race, have less knowledge and understanding than those who inspired the writers to write them. Those that inspired them could have been an alien race, a future race, or humans that connected with the Hall of Records - or something else. -What seems rational and divine to one may not be rational or divine to another, so your belief in a divinely inspired God explanation is not the only possibility. But being brought up in this belief definitely makes it feel more comfortable for many.