Quantum zeno effect (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 17:46 (3893 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: My own thinking has been greatly influenced by Margulis' emphasis on cooperation as a key to evolution, and if I remember rightly, it was she who called for investigation into the degree to which cells are conscious. -DAVID: Since electrons, photons and atoms act as quanta, more than likely some degree of quantum consciousness exists in all living forms.-And since you believe that God is "part of everything, but that part remains interconnected to all other parts", and God is consciousness, it stands to reason that consciousness is part of all particles, henceforth to be known as godicles. Or does it? (See below)-Dhw: [...] now the discussion no longer revolves around whether particles can have some kind of intelligence. We agree that they have. And we agree that particles "organized [the universe] and have created a universe that allows us to exist." The question then becomes what is the source of the intelligence? And the idea that it may have evolved within the "discrete" particles, which then combined to organize the universe and life, is no more and no less fantastic than the idea that a superintelligence didn't evolve but has simply always been there. Stalemate.-DAVID: No stalemate. The quantum realm is its own special place. But we envision it as ONE realm of place. Therefore the non-locality property of quanta makes them all interconnected. No separate Godicles.-Do the godicles that "organized [the universe] and have created a universe that allows us to exist", only refer to the particles in the quantum realm? Then what particles does the material universe consist of? And are you now saying that God is NOT part of the zillions of particles of which the universe is actually made, even though he is part of everything? And since nobody knows what is actually going on in the quantum world, how do you know that it is not possible for separate particles to be interconnected, as they are in our empirical world? Are you as confused as I am?