Afterlife: OBE found (Endings)
David has found and reproduced BBella's OBE. Thank you, David, and thank you, BBella. (So much for my vivid memory ... but perhaps I hesitated to ask about other personal matters. At least I remembered the beach!) Like so many of your experiences, BBella, it's intriguing and touching, and you continue to open up new avenues of exploration for all of us. > > I have one very prosaic question, which I know you will forgive me for. You mentioned your decision not to eat or drink, and I'm wondering if you actually put that into practice for any length of time before your OBE. I ask because of the theoretical link between arthritis and diet, and the general principle behind detoxification ... not, I hasten to add, just in relation to drugs or alcohol, but to ridding the body of any substance that might be harmful to it. There are lots of "health farms" in the UK that charge large fees for starving their clients, so even if it's not relevant here, it would be interesting to know David's views on the subject.-No, dhw, this all happened in one afternoon, my decision to die. Just to elaborate, I had been in extreme pain for months (mostly bedridden for 5 years) but the last few days before this had become too overwhelming for me. The decision to not eat or drink was made that day and the experience I had was just a short time later. So no real time had gone by without eating and/or drinking (altho I had fasted, detoxed, became vegan spent much on any and every type of cure way before this day. My doctors had also put me on many different meds, and as I said before, even tried pot for a bit - all to no avail - altho the marijuana did help me more than anything else, I was able to move with less pain, but I was so sensitive to it's side effects and they became overwhelming for me and my family - could really tell some tales about that! And I would like to say, if marijuana did get into the right hands and developed correctly, it could be a great remedy for a lot of ailments). But moving on, I had always tried very hard to be upbeat and hopeful that we might find a solution for my situation, and I had never been a depressive type person and never once considered suicide in my life. A few months before this day I had watched a program about Tibetan Monks (I think), how when they were ready to leave this world they would just sit and zone into themselves and leave, pass from this life to the next! Sometimes it would take days, weeks and maybe even longer for them to pass. They would just sit undisturbed with their eyes closed never moving a muscle until they found the door. Of course my (not well thought out) plan was to leave that day - no sitting around for days, etc but whatever it took, I had hoped to die that day, but even if I had to starve and however long it was going to take, I had made my resolve. No muss, no fuss. What I hadn't expected was the relief of pain I had afterward when suddenly brought to myself by one of my children. And as I said, my pain level was less and never returned to be where I was completely frozen and immobile as before this event. -What I think I mentioned at some point around this discussion of my OBE before, is because of my religious beliefs, I had always avoided meditation or any study of the mind other than psychology since I was a Christian counselor. But after this event, I had a new mission in life, which was to go inward and explore my own new found mental capacity knowing there was an untapped power within me. What I did for myself in just an hour or so of meditation (OBE or whatever) did more for me than everything I had known before, or really, since. -After this event, I did find a doctor who put me on the new biologic meds at that time and am still on them off and on, altho the pain part of my illness has went into remission - even when I am off the meds for long lengths of time it has not come back. My doctor claims that is highly unusual. I allow myself a holistic view of healing: mental, physical and spiritual. The spiritual being the chakra system/etc - which I first learned thru a dream (in which I experienced kundulini) and then found out more about it as I opened my mind to accept guidance thru what I had mentioned earlier in our discussions quite a while back - sychronicity and the guidance of the universal intelligence. -I'm sure this is much more than what you were asking about...so I will stop here.
Complete thread:
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-08, 14:22
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-01-09, 00:27
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-09, 19:04
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2013-01-10, 17:46
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-11, 08:11
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-11, 15:05
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-12, 13:00
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-12, 15:01
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-14, 06:51
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-15, 16:56
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-15, 17:22
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-01-16, 07:00
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-16, 07:10
- Afterlife - Balance_Maintained, 2013-01-16, 07:36
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-18, 18:36
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-18, 19:06
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-21, 04:59
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-22, 18:44
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-22, 19:03
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-01-24, 22:43
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-24, 23:37
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-26, 14:28
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-26, 17:14
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-01-28, 06:14
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-28, 07:08
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-29, 12:06
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-30, 04:24
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-01-30, 05:10
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-30, 18:57
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-01-30, 22:15
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-31, 13:25
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-01, 07:11
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-01, 20:25
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-03, 07:19
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-03, 08:03
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-02-03, 16:02
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-02-03, 15:57
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-04, 12:52
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-02-06, 07:36
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-06, 07:37
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-07, 12:01
- Afterlife - David Turell, 2013-02-07, 14:57
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-02-07, 22:08
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-07, 22:22
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-02-08, 01:00
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-02-08, 06:07
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-08, 20:13
- Afterlife: OBE found -
David Turell,
2013-02-09, 01:18
- Afterlife: OBE found -
dhw,
2013-02-09, 11:53
- Afterlife: OBE found -
David Turell,
2013-02-09, 15:00
- Afterlife: OBE found - dhw, 2013-02-10, 13:28
- Afterlife: OBE found -
BBella,
2013-02-11, 07:21
- Afterlife: OBE found -
dhw,
2013-02-12, 12:03
- Afterlife: skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2016-11-19, 19:40
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-27, 01:13
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-27, 11:19
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-27, 15:26
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-28, 11:39
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-28, 14:55
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-29, 10:50
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-29, 13:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-30, 13:31
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-30, 19:50
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-31, 12:11
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-31, 15:12
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-01, 12:03
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-01, 16:23
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-02, 13:38
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-02, 14:06
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-03, 10:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-03, 18:55
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-03, 18:59
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-04, 08:46
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-04, 19:18
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-05, 12:17
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-05, 19:48
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-06, 12:27
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-06, 15:32
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-07, 10:34
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-07, 20:28
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-08, 10:51
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-08, 17:54
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-09, 10:52
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-09, 19:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-10, 15:21
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-10, 17:34
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-11, 10:30
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-11, 15:51
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-12, 11:43
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-12, 15:44
- Afterlife: Greyson's current thinking about new research -
David Turell,
2023-01-19, 18:42
- Afterlife: Kurt Godel's thoughts -
David Turell,
2024-01-02, 16:19
- Afterlife: Kurt Godel's thoughts II - David Turell, 2024-01-02, 16:45
- Afterlife: Kurt Godel's thoughts -
David Turell,
2024-01-02, 16:19
- Afterlife: Greyson's current thinking about new research -
David Turell,
2023-01-19, 18:42
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-12, 15:44
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-12, 11:43
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-11, 15:51
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-11, 10:30
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-10, 17:34
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-10, 15:21
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-09, 19:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-09, 10:52
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-08, 17:54
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-08, 10:51
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-07, 20:28
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-07, 10:34
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-06, 15:32
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-06, 12:27
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-05, 19:48
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-05, 12:17
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-04, 19:18
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-04, 08:46
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-03, 18:59
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-03, 18:55
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-03, 10:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-02, 14:06
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-02, 13:38
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-06-01, 16:23
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-06-01, 12:03
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-31, 15:12
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-31, 12:11
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-30, 19:50
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-30, 13:31
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-29, 13:53
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-29, 10:50
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-28, 14:55
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-28, 11:39
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-27, 15:26
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
dhw,
2020-05-27, 11:19
- Afterlife: Pinker's skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2020-05-27, 01:13
- Afterlife: skeptical thought -
David Turell,
2016-11-19, 19:40
- Afterlife: OBE found -
dhw,
2013-02-12, 12:03
- Afterlife: OBE found -
David Turell,
2013-02-09, 15:00
- Afterlife: OBE found -
dhw,
2013-02-09, 11:53
- Afterlife: OBE found -
David Turell,
2013-02-09, 01:18
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-02-08, 01:00
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-07, 12:01
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-03, 08:03
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-03, 07:19
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-02-01, 20:25
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-02-01, 07:11
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-30, 18:57
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-01-30, 05:10
- Afterlife -
BBella,
2013-01-30, 04:24
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-29, 12:06
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-26, 14:28
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-22, 18:44
- Afterlife - BBella, 2013-01-21, 05:00
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-15, 16:56
- Afterlife -
dhw,
2013-01-09, 19:04
- Afterlife -
David Turell,
2013-01-09, 00:27