Afterlife (Endings)

by dhw, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 18:44 (4321 days ago) @ BBella

BBELLA: In my thinking, of how I want the IBT to be, when a soul gets back to the IBT (after death), they cease living the life they lived on Earth, in the sense, they remember who they truly are (the remember the many lives they lived before, the eons of knowledge they had before they came to the land of forgetfulness of their recent past life, etc). So the influences that would have compelled Hitler to become who he was on earth (certainly a mover and shaker) no longer applies to his IBT life. Imagine playing a video game where you have created a whole life where you are the king and you've killed a lot of people, but when you shut it off, you live a life nothing like that life and know so much more than the person you play in the video. Let's say that in years to come they create something like the holodeck on star wars...it would be something like that. In other words, when Hitler gets to the IBT he will be using all of his brain and memory (not just 10 percent).-It's difficult to pick out a section from your post, but I think this one probably contains most of your ideas. It suggests that you'd like to believe we are not the person we think we are. It's as if, then, we have come to this Earth as actors playing a part, and only when we go back to the In-Between Time do we find out who we "truly are". I should imagine that, since this is how you would like things to be, you would therefore like to think that Hitler is actually a really nice guy and ... since he will remember everything ... will wonder what the heck made him into such a monster. But how could this nice guy live with the knowledge of what he's done? Wouldn't the IBT be full of criminals in agony? And even if he came back to Earth as Saint Teresa, he'd still have to return eventually to the IBT, and remember the screams. So I think your ideal IBT would have to contain the option of eternal death, wouldn't it? I suspect also that the realistic you (as opposed to the idealistic one represented here) will wonder as I do how the nice "true" Hitler can have been metamorphosed into the tyrant, and indeed how any identity is formed in the first place or can continue in the second place! -As regards NDEs, I'm not sure that every single one is pleasant ... David will know more than I do. And of course the majority of resuscitated patients don't have one anyway, which is a problem when we try to work out what's going on. But I find it surprising that some people want to stay in the "IBT", as if they no longer care about the people they are leaving behind. Perhaps someone should do a more detailed study of these patients ... their backgrounds and family relationships. Why do they no longer care about their loved ones on Earth? In your IBT they apparently won't forget them, so what would be the ideal for you: that we do care, or we don't care? And if we do care, how do you visualize relationships with, say, the 100 different partners and families we might have worked our way through in our last 100 incarnations (not to mention their own partners and families)? Sorry if these questions seem silly, but as you'll have gathered, I do have a great deal of difficulty visualizing ANY kind of afterlife that makes sense.-I don't know if Tony is following this discussion, but Tony, if you are, I would be interested to know your views on NDEs, especially since you seem to think of an afterlife only in terms of a physical resurrection.