Afterlife (Endings)

by BBella , Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 07:00 (4328 days ago) @ dhw

BBELLA: Once, when I smoked marijuana, I was guided (thru a wormhole I would call them) to understand that the sun was [a] living being. [...] So, I wouldn't say I believe it but I wouldn't discount it either. Nothing is impossible.
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> Spoken like a true agnostic! According to one variation of panpsychism (panexperientialism, to be precise!), there is a degree of "phenomenal consciousness" in all matter, though it doesn't extend to cognition or self-awareness. The sun regulates its activities (just as various living cells regulate theirs) in such a way that we are able to live and stay alive. David would cite this as an example of God's design, but perhaps it's an example of cell cooperation on a cosmic scale, since our existence depends on so many other factors within the universe. Maybe David's universal intelligence is not ONE intelligence but billions of separate material "cells" sharing their separate intelligence and getting together to form our life-sustaining world. This would be quite a nice stepping stone between theism and atheism. I don't believe it, but "nothing is impossible" (um...within the boundaries of common sense, as defined by each individual!)-Now this I do believe! And the reason for that is it's just what I experienced and tried to express in poems and art during my "frozen in time" years. Cellular communication at a universal level. I will be looking further into panpsychism and panexperientialism when I get time. [On an aside - my reason for trying marijuana was to try and ease the pain during my illness - and it did work, but I couldn't handle the mental effects. I also admit to trying it many years before in my younger years, but with little if any effect - not so with the kind I was smoking during my illness - that stuff kicked a**] 
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> BBELLA: Whatever it is that happens to the mind when pushed to the edge [...] determines how you will think thereafter. And, of course, no one cares then about a scientific explanation.
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> I don't think people need to be pushed to the edge to have faith, or even to be converted. -I agree, they don't, but - I was speaking more to those who, regardless of what they believed going into an experience, coming out on the other side of certain kinds of experiences they have faith or belief in something completely incomprehensible to them before. Like NDE's, extreme illnesses, desperate situations, etc. So many people have found themselves pushed to the edge, and some even over the edge, experiencing something they could never have imagined on this side of the experience. It is these kind of experiences that I am speaking about that tells me there are more spaces/places to "visit" in the universe than only places we see. ->I think most of us on this forum recognize that science has its limitations, and that it is not the only access we have to the reality of things (assuming things have any reality).-Exactly my point. And you described your point in such a way to lead into my point: Not only does science have it's limitations, we each have that same limitation when it comes to having access to each others reality (at a point). There is one common reality we do all share with each other and that we all have access to together. But then there is the other reality that even tho we all share, in the sense that we all have one, but no one has access to the others - and that is within the reality of consciousness. Yet, even tho we cannot access each others conscious reality, each persons reality is just as real when it comes to it's "effect" on the universal consciousness thru - cellular communication. 
 
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