Evolution in schools; legal trap (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Friday, June 08, 2012, 19:49 (4552 days ago) @ romansh

Our concepts of "order" and "disorder" as David is using it is completely wrong. There are two kids of order: grouping, and symmetry. Entropy is the transformation of one kind of order to another.
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> I'd be careful here Matt, 
> I don't think currently entropy is thought of as order (or decrease in order) here is an opening quote:-No, but David and even myself learned an "order/disorder" version of entropy, and I just wanted to point out that this thinking is, at best, illusory. The direction of order in the universe is pointing to symmetry order. David was discussing things in terms of "disorder" in regards to entropy, hence the impetus of my post.-> >>This is written for you quickly to understand the second law and entropy. All but a few general chemistry texts have discarded "entropy is disorder" and adopted my approach. However, if your text and instructor describe things differently, don't argue with or correct her/him! Just memorize what you read in the text and hear in class so that you can give the expected answers on exams. Grades are important at this time in your life but the understanding that you will get here will last a lifetime.
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> http://entropysite.oxy.edu/students_approach.html
> This I think is a great summary to entropy and the second law.
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> Somewhere in the text the author asks what are the units of disorder?
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> Clearly the dimensions of disorder are not energy/temperature.
> -Disorder shouldn't even be used here. That link you posted says the same thing I did with different wording.- " Energy spontaneously disperses from being localized to becoming spread out if it is not hindered from doing so."-I admit to not being a stellar communicator, but if you detect an error in my thinking, please be more explicit. -> and here is a short essay on randomness in numbers, ultimately I think it applies to the physical world as well.
> http://www.random.org/randomness/-
That's a good site--but wasted on myself. (Secure systems developer... I had a year of number theory and cryptology in college, including some quantum crypto.)

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