Evolution in schools; legal trap (Introduction)
Our concepts of "order" and "disorder" as David is using it is completely wrong. There are two kids of order: grouping, and symmetry. Entropy is the transformation of one kind of order to another.-I'd be careful here Matt, I don't think currently entropy is thought of as order (or decrease in order) here is an opening quote: >>This is written for you quickly to understand the second law and entropy. All but a few general chemistry texts have discarded "entropy is disorder" and adopted my approach. However, if your text and instructor describe things differently, don't argue with or correct her/him! Just memorize what you read in the text and hear in class so that you can give the expected answers on exams. Grades are important at this time in your life but the understanding that you will get here will last a lifetime. from http://entropysite.oxy.edu/students_approach.html This I think is a great summary for entropy and the second law.-Somewhere in the text the author asks what are the units of disorder?-Clearly the dimensions of disorder are not energy/temperature.-and here is a short essay on randomness in numbers, ultimately I think it applies to the physical world as well. http://www.random.org/randomness/
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