Einstein and Time (Humans)

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Saturday, February 11, 2012, 18:09 (4419 days ago) @ dhw

Matt says time is not real.
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> DAVID: I understand his point. Time is a human invention. It is only real within that invention. Stop the clocks and we still go from one moment in time and reality to another. Time is our measurement of sequential events, based on division of the rotation of the Earth and its trip around the sun. The events exist, the sequence exists. That is real.
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> David, that is MY point. The divisions/measurements are man-made, but the sequence IS the reality of time. There is a before-and-after, a cause-effect-cause-effect, and a not yet existing future that becomes an existing present that becomes a no longer existing past. The sequence ... not 11.25 am, 10 February 2012 ... is what I see as the reality of time. If you don't agree, find me another word to describe that sequence.
> -It is here where you go astray. Because of that little equation, E = mc^2, the rate at which you experience time is different for both of us. This difference is microscopic for us doing day-to-day things. This means that there is no objective reality for time. On a galactic scale, there is no universal property for time, because of how gravity interacts with the cosmos.-There's no universal clock you can use that will allow you to put together a completely coherent timeline. Because all the objects in the universe have their own "clocks." There's no objective "master clock" in the universe. -Here's a different website:
http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-space/time-travel.html-The "sequence of events" you keep talking about... they happen independently of any clock. Here's a video that discusses this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wteiuxyqtoM-Because each object in the universe has a different mass, [and travels at different speeds] ALL EVENTS occur at different "times" relative to us and each other.-[EDITED]

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