similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs (Introduction)
"There has been plenty of Hundu violence in recent times, let alone in history. For example:-http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/holy-war-strikes-india-955502.html "35 Christians killed and 50,000 forced from their homes by Hindu mobs enraged at Swami's murder" (October 2008)"-By the way i am not a Hindu apologist and i would be the first one to condone organisations like VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad).Now if you state these examples and you are drawing the conclusion that Hindus are violent people because of religion than indeed you are extremely ignorant and I dont apologize for this. the very articles have clearly stated the reason for the attacks. I will paste it from the very article.-"The swami, a senior member of a right-wing Hindu organisation known as the Vishswa Hindu Parishad (VHP), had reportedly been working to prevent low-caste Hindus converting to Christianity. His followers claimed he had been murdered by local Christians, though police said there was no evidence of that. "-I will have to explain the history of India in detail to you my dear friend unfortunately. The term Hindu is not coined from a religious belief. The term Hindu simply comes from the fact that people thousands of years ago were settled by the Indus valley civilization in the province of sindh, they were calling themselves Sindhus which is mentioned in the RIG Veda. Now when the Persian Muslim invaders came to Sindh they had a LISP and hence started calling us Hindus. Also tell me the word that is a replacement for the english word religion in Sanskrit or hindi. Please do not come up with the word dharma because dharma does not mean religion it means righteousness or duty. we do not even have a word for religion. So if you know so much about Hinduism find a trace of the word Hindu in that and then accuse Hindus of violence because of religion. India does not have a history in its whole civilization of invading any country. But India has been invaded tortured and brutally murdered by the Mughal Muslims invaders and than by the Britishers. This isn't a myth my dear friend it is a reality. And when your very identity is at threat than human beings will stand up and defend it. While i condone the violence that happened in the above link i dont regret them because they stem from the fact that unfortunately abrahamic faiths have this weird style where you can convert into a Muslim and Christian. Hindus and their beliefs are stated as ways of life and not religion and there is no concept of conversion in that philosophy. we never taught of increasing numbers we were very happy living our lives peacefully and did not even think of going anywhere. It is the invaders who forced their faiths upon us. You dont have stories of Hindu settlers going to the gulf and trying to convert people into Hinduism because they did not even have a concept like that. But if people are going to force their faiths upon others and if those people within the group that does not want to be converted are going to stand up and defend themselves than yes it is justified. This is like if we had a country where most of the people were atheists and suddenly the religious abrahamic minority comes and they start converting the atheists into their faiths. I can guarantee you that some of those atheists will attack those religious groups in self defense. I can challenge anyone of your so called correspondents in an open debate about this with historical facts and evidences. They are welcome. You can give them my e-mail address which is satyansh30@yahoo.com. I am sorry and I will condone everything that is wrong about people who call themselves Hindus but I will definitely do not accept charges of violence in the name of religion by hindus. If standing up for ones identity and culture is wrong than i support wrong. You say hindus are violent here are some population statistics of india after independence since 1947. Please check my second reply for that.
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satyansh,
2010-11-27, 20:18
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - David Turell, 2010-11-27, 22:02
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BBella,
2010-11-28, 06:26
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - satyansh, 2010-11-28, 07:00
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-12-03, 05:25
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satyansh,
2010-12-03, 06:11
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dhw,
2010-12-03, 13:48
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satyansh,
2010-12-04, 07:27
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dhw,
2010-12-06, 14:43
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - satyansh, 2010-12-06, 14:51
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dhw,
2010-12-06, 14:43
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satyansh,
2010-12-04, 07:27
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dhw,
2010-12-03, 13:48
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satyansh,
2010-12-03, 06:11
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-07, 12:25
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David Turell,
2010-12-07, 14:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-12-07, 16:13
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-07, 19:39
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - dhw, 2010-12-08, 10:48
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-07, 19:39
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-12-07, 16:13
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satyansh,
2010-12-08, 13:27
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - George Jelliss, 2010-12-08, 16:56
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-08, 17:46
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satyansh,
2010-12-08, 18:11
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-10, 21:06
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - satyansh, 2010-12-11, 10:51
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - satyansh, 2010-12-11, 10:52
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George Jelliss,
2010-12-10, 21:06
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-12-09, 04:01
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - David Turell, 2010-12-09, 05:14
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satyansh,
2010-12-08, 18:11
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David Turell,
2010-12-07, 14:23
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xeno6696,
2010-12-15, 00:48
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satyansh,
2010-12-15, 06:46
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xeno6696,
2010-12-16, 13:04
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satyansh,
2010-12-16, 13:17
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David Turell,
2010-12-16, 20:18
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satyansh,
2010-12-17, 08:01
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - David Turell, 2010-12-17, 16:04
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xeno6696,
2011-01-10, 23:09
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-11, 22:21
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xeno6696,
2011-01-11, 23:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-14, 22:44
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs - xeno6696, 2011-01-15, 02:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-14, 22:44
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
xeno6696,
2011-01-11, 23:30
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-01-11, 22:21
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
satyansh,
2010-12-17, 08:01
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
David Turell,
2010-12-16, 20:18
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
satyansh,
2010-12-16, 13:17
- similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs -
xeno6696,
2010-12-16, 13:04
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satyansh,
2010-12-15, 06:46