similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs (Introduction)
Satyansh: A second topic: the nature of Atheism.-You wrote: "George when we are small and our parents tell us dont drink or dont smoke we tend to do it more because we are told to abolish it. Its human nature that when you tell the person to leave something completely they tend to cling on to it even more. It triggers of a insecurity which is inherent in all human beings and atheists are no different to that. Why did atheists run away from the concept of god because you're told time and again by ardent believers to not question him which deters you even more from that belief. Science is one of the reasons for atheists to question the concept of god not the only reason."-This idea that atheists run away from the concept of god as some sort of rebellion is a strange one to me. I only really encountered religion when I was given classes on "Religious Instruction", as it was then called, at Grammar School. I gave quite a lot of thought to it, until I decided that it was all just a waste of time. In the end I thought that people like Bertrand Russell and A. J. Ayer, who were prominent humanists at the time, made more sense. -You also devalue scence: "My dear friend science can only tell you probably not certainly how life is, it cannot teach you how to live life. I dont mean to say religion can teach you how to live life. But science cant either. Science is given way too much importance just like religion is. They have their own places in life. If religious nut jobs take religion too seriously atheists take science and reason too seriously."-Science can tell you a lot of things that are the basis of knowledge upon which one can then apply philosophical reasoning to decide questions of ethics, politics and aesthetics, which tell you how to conduct your life.-You are afraid of atheists becoming violent: "i certainly feel atheists right now aren't violent because a they are more civilized thanks to reason not science and also because they are not as organised and powerful as religious people. I wun be surprised when the new atheist movement takes political power that you see atheists ran sacking shops on the name of the very science and religion that they love so much. I could actually see them breaking churches or mosques because you are assuming that when people become atheists that all of them would understand science very well. Heck i know people who became atheists just because they think it is something cool of different and those are the ones that worry and they are the ones that are increasing at a faster rate."-Historically I can't think of any examples of atheists coming to power and destroying churches. Usually they just convert them to secular uses. Atheism is just a nonbelief in the supernatural, it is not a political belief. Atheists can be capitalist, socialist, communist, fascist, or whatever.
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GPJ
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