similarities between New Age atheists and religious nut jobs (Introduction)
The phrase "New Age Atheists" is one I've not met before.-"New Age" thinking usually refers to the "Age of Aquarius" hippy type woo, that talks of chi energy and quantum consciousness and such like. Richard Dawkins did a series attacking such ways of thought, typified by Deepak Chopra.-"New Atheists" is usually used to refer to Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Dan Dennett and co. I'm very much on their wavelength.-Satyansh is saying, jokingly he admits, that these two groups are similar.-Needless to say, as a rationalist and atheist, I don't agree.-1) arrogance. Is it arrogance to cite the evidence for ones views where based on science, and to give reasoned arguments where of a philosophical nature?-2) delusion. Much religion IS at the root of conflicts in the world, and is spreading pernicious ideas, like young-earth creationism, repression of women and homosexuality, and submission to religious authorities, etc. This is real.-3) intolerance. Opinion needs to be backed up by evidence. No rationalist claims to "know it all", we just think extraordinary claims need proof.-4) both use the slippery slope, straw man and ad hominem attacks to justify themselves. This is indeed pernicious, and genuine rationalists try to avoid such temptations. No doubt there are some sinners who fail this test.-5) denial: they actually think they are listening to the other person. Well personally I do try to listen, but often fail to understand.-6) seeking truth: I certainly wouldn't claim to be "more moral and wise" than others. Many people have much more experience than me, but I do reserve the right to come to my own conclusions.
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GPJ
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