Genetic Variation (Introduction)
> 1. Backwards editing. > > Otherwise, present me with the appropriate verses, and I will consider. At the same time, George Lucas's conception of the Death Star is/was a radical idea which may only have had precedent in the "Planet Eater" of Star Trek Fame. > > Star Trek is a notorious show for predicting future technologies. > > Was Gene Roddenberry a God, or was he just innovative and creative enough to peer into the future? You are trying to put limits on what a creative mind can imagine. What frame of reference did Gene have for the Planet Eater? How about George Lucas for his Death star, or Tolkien for his "One Ring?" > > How much of the Vimanas is fact, how much is fiction, and how much is fiction believed to be fact? Unless you can answer all three of those categories, you don't have a case.-The whole point of trying to get science to investigate the claims of the Vimanas is to answer those three questions. Unless I completely misunderstand science to a gross degree, that is its primary purpose, to explore, discover, and explain.-You also completely misunderstand the term 'frame of reference', apparently. By the time Star Trek and Star Wars came along, we knew some little about space, and electronics, and photons, and plasma, and lasers etc. These provide a 'frame of reference' for an author to expound on. If you know what gravity is, you can imagine a way to defy it. If you know what an engine is, you can imagine newer, higher performance engines, that use different fuels, or work in different environments. Lord of the Rings did little but expound on things that were already familiar. Differences in humanoids have been used as part of myth and legend for thousands of years.(Puck, minotaur, harpies, etc) Even the 'rings of power' were only a conglomeration of a few different pre-existing ideas(rings, domination, greed, power, control, mysticism, volcanoes). I am not trying to discredit any of these authors, because I am a big fan of most of them, and see their imagination as inspiring. But you can not deny that they did have a frame of reference for all of their writings. -As far as references to the particular verses, I have already linked a website which contains the references you asked for, you have but to look and you will find.
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