Genetic Variation (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Wednesday, October 06, 2010, 23:40 (5161 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Well, according to the vimanas the ancient Indians knew about 92 of the elements, studied sciences that we consider relatively young, like geology, and had aircraft. You still haven't done anything to explain the facts that don't fit with our modern historical record.
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> > And they had the rudiments of modern reconstructive plastic surgery... though with wood and leather. THAT we have evidence of. 
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> > Your point here? That in the absence of evidence we are safe to accept the claims of the vimanas? Safe to consider of course, but that--as with all things lacking evidence--remains in the "mystery" or "doubt" category. Show me a plan, or a wreckage of a machine we can reverse engineer and demonstrate and you'll see me more pliant.
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> No the point is that they had no frame of reference to even begin to describe what they were describing according to our modern historical paradigm. It isn't enough to say they dreamed it all up, or imagined it. I will give a clear example of what I mean.
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> In the Greek myth of Icarus and Daedalous, Daedalous built a pair of fantastic wings for himself and his son. The wings were metal framed, leather harnessed, and covered with wax in which feathers were set. Now in this story, the Greeks had a very obvious frame of reference, birds. The wings were shaped like bird wings, used like bird wings, even contained feathers like bird wings. 
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> The Vimanas however are different. Where is the frame of reference to describe a missile with atomic fallout? Where is the frame of reference for electromagnetism? Where is the frame of reference for nuclear weapons complete with accurate descriptions of the side effects (radiation poisoning, the heat blast, shock wave, the blinding light)-1. Backwards editing. -Otherwise, present me with the appropriate verses, and I will consider. At the same time, George Lucas's conception of the Death Star is/was a radical idea which may only have had precedent in the "Planet Eater" of Star Trek Fame.-Star Trek is a notorious show for predicting future technologies. -Was Gene Roddenberry a God, or was he just innovative and creative enough to peer into the future? You are trying to put limits on what a creative mind can imagine. What frame of reference did Gene have for the Planet Eater? How about George Lucas for his Death star, or Tolkien for his "One Ring?"-How much of the Vimanas is fact, how much is fiction, and how much is fiction believed to be fact? Unless you can answer all three of those categories, you don't have a case.

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