Hawking ditches God (The atheist delusion)

by David Turell , Saturday, September 11, 2010, 15:26 (4968 days ago) @ xeno6696


> I can answer this part: The universe--even in the "Big Bang" model, "expands" literally into nothing. There is no "outside" the universe. The word "expands" is not the best word choice as it carries connotations that lead to incorrect conclusions--I defer to an expert at Cornell:
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> http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=274-I agree with the Cornell quotes. Bread and raisins is an old concept, but he agrees. We have no idea what is out 'there' that the Big Bang expanded into. And if we can measure 13.7 billion years, and if Hubble saw the pulling apart, and if space is flat, in my stupid mind, stretching and expansion are very similar if not the same. 
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> >>Space time is flat, according to the latest findings. However if we try to reach an edge we will simply curve back on ourselves within our universe.
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> There has been some confirmation of a flat model, but a firm consensus does not exist:
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> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rummaging-for-a-final-theory-I'd read the article when it arrived. Lie concepts may look for a final theory but flatness is not discussed. Lie concepts have to do with symmetry and particles that make up that approach. my memory is that Lie's led to membrane theory?
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> No... but my real reason for posting the quotes was due to your mild assertion that Hawking too believes in a creator: I think those quotes do a good job of representing a definite shade of doubt.[EDIT] -I used those quotes by Hawking because of his quotes earlier in life. I think he is a great PR man for himself. Use God and get more public interest. Polkinghorne became an Anglican Priest because of their collaboration, same info different result. Have you read any of P's books?