Complexity of gene codes (Introduction)
I thought this comment on a discussion on the Dawkins forum might be of interest. It estimates the enormous number of generations in the process of evolution from the simplest cell to humans. More than enough for chance and natural processes to evolve all manner of complexity.-http://richarddawkins.net/discussions/499667-how-many-generation-estimated-from-first-cell-to-modern-human-How-many-generation-estimated-from-first-cell-to-modern-human?-In The Ancestors Tale Richard Dawkins gives an estimate of how many generations have gone between each branch point concerning the human line (which turns into the 'ape line' then the 'mammal line' then... etc.) to us modern day humans (there are about forty such branch points on our line - surprising no?). So the fisrt branch point is between us and chimps, 250 thousand generations ago (which spans 6 million years). Reptiles and birds branched off at 310 million years ago, 170 million generations ago. Of course, the average generation time for a human is something like 20 years, whilst mouse might be only about 2 years - so that has to be factored in (and since we are dealing with long extinct animals, some guesswork is required).-Anyway, the last branch point, which Dawkins ventures a guess at the amount of generations past, is at the branch point between humans and protostomes (worms, molluscs, insects and crustaceans etc.) This is a little after 'phylems to be' such as plants, animals and fungi have appeared. Dawkins estimates about 310 million genertions have passed in that 600 million year(!) gap.-So Dawkins deosn't even try to guess at how many generations have gone between us and our single celled ancestors. Were are probably talking anywhere between 1 and 4 billion years of single celled life. Some single celled animals today have a geration time of a few hours. How many generations can you pack into a few billion years, given a generation time as short as that?-Hell if I know, but the margin of error would be collosal.-Addition: Assuming two and half billion years of single celled life, with an average generation time of 6 hours. There would have been 3'650'000'000'000 (3.65 trillion) generations before you even start with multicellular life.
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GPJ
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