# More "miscellany" (General)

**Survival**

dhw: *It is therefore absurd to claim that designing a species-changing organ which is required for survival means that survival plays no role in driving evolution to the next stage. What is evolution if it is not changes in body forms which lead to speciation?*

DAVID: *Word play. Survival does not drive evolution is my point. Yours is an attempt for pure Darwinism.*

dhw: *The word play is yours. If a new body form is designed to aid survival, it makes no sense to say that the design was not driven by the need or desire to aid survival.*

DAVID: *Off my point, survival does not act as a driving force for evolution.*

So when conditions change, and an organism’s structure changes to meet the new requirements (= improve chances of survival) - thereby creating the new species that form the whole history of evolution - the changes are not driven by the need to meet new requirements (= improve chances of survival). Not for the first time, I am baffled by your logic.

**Magic embryology**

Transferred to “**Cellular intelligence**”.

**Predicting perception**

dhw: *Yes, our perceptions and inferences and hypotheses will depend on prior knowledge, but prediction is simply one of the brain’s activities. Deduction is another.*

DAVID: *Agreed.*

dhw:

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