The simplest explanation? (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Saturday, October 10, 2020, 19:41 (1503 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Misinterpretation of how I view Shapiro: excellent research, no proof of his theory of how speciation occurs. I'm waiting for confirmation.

dhw: You wrote: “My theory is not any more scientific than Shapiro’s. My point is that no one has advanced it in any way.” Hence my comment above. No one has advanced your own theory that God preprogrammed or dabbled every life form in the history of life, and there is no proof of it. May I assume, then, that you have NOT rejected Shapiro’s theory but are simply waiting for confirmation both of his and of yours? If so, I fear you will have to wait for a very long time!

I never objected to Shapiro's theory, but to your gross extrapolation from it of cell intelligence.


DAVID: Evolution is very straight forward from somewhat simple to extremely complex.

dhw: It is not “very straightforward” at all. It branches out in all kinds of directions, which is what makes a nonsense of your theory that every branch and twig served the one purpose of producing one species and its food supply.

DAVID: Back to denying God's design of evolution, and necessary food supply. Each branch of life is light-years more complex than original life.

dhw: See “error corrections” re design and your avoidance of the issue bolded there.

I've seen and answered.


DAVID: Cells do not have enough ability to foresee future requirements in design at the currently demonstrated ability. All they do is run their factories and produce. All it all looks very intelligent, because they were designed that way.

dhw: Cells do not have to “foresee” anything. Cells react to requirements as they arise. Once they have met those requirements, they will continue to deal with them automatically until new requirements arise. I don’t know why you assume that cells which “look” intelligent are NOT intelligent.

DAVID: You do know why. Programmed which makes them look intelligent. God the designer.

dhw: I don’t know why you assume that organisms which look intelligent are not intelligent but preprogrammed. God can be the designer of either version.

God gave cells intelligent instructions, not direct intelligence. We will always disagree.


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