cellular intelligence; information controls (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, June 01, 2019, 10:00 (2001 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: You wrote that “cells have the ability to reconfigure chemical reactions to immediate stimuli, but the cells themselves are not changed.” The cell communities ARE changed. See the whale thread for your dismissal of Shapiro’s theory as a pipe dream.

DAVID: Cells are changed in speciation, which neither of us knows how it happens.

Thank you. Cells ARE changed. Neither of us knows, but you insist that Shapiro’s theory is a pipe dream, whereas your own theory of divine preprogramming and/or dabbling is not a pipe dream.

Under “biological complexity”: "'Shortly after cells invented how to make proteins, they were also faced with determining how to deal with incompletely made proteins," Joazeiro says. "The analyses suggest that an Rqc2 homolog in the last universal common ancestor already carried out this task.[/b]'" (DAVID’s bold)

DAVID: The story implies the automaticity of cells while manufacturing, which is constant. Also the final bolded comment is what I always point out: when the first cell is originated (designed), these defense mechanism against mistakes have to also be created at the same time or life would not survive. Step-by-step evolution is impossible.

dhw: “Cells invented” apparently = automaticity, and “shortly after” = at the same time.

DAVID: Where did Rqc2 come from. Supplied by God , not invented by chance

It is automaticity and simultaneity that I am questioning here – not the existence of God and not the odds against chance.