Bacterial motors carefully studied (Introduction)

by BBella , Tuesday, April 05, 2016, 20:56 (3153 days ago) @ dhw

You asked me why God would only intervene on and off. You can hardly complain if I give you a possible answer.
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> DAVID: I feel He wanted to create a thinking being to respond to Him, which we have done. We think like He does, only to a much less degree. Remember we are made in His image, at the mental level.
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> I don't have a problem with that, except that I'm not sure what you mean by “respond to him”. Response usually entails the other party making the first move, whereas you have always claimed that God deliberately hides himself from us. You have often accused me of anthropomorphizing God when I talk of boredom and entertainment, so I'm glad you now accept that if we think like him, he must think like us. I wrote that whatever reason he had for creating us could be applied to the rest of creation. Well, how much more entertaining to watch a thinking, questioning, ever expanding intelligence, rather than the endless comings and goings of organisms only bent on their own physical survival/improvement. But your anthropocentric hypothesis still leaves us with the problem of 3.(whatever) billion years of dabbled or (for you too, unbelievably) preprogrammed innovations, lifestyles and natural wonders all somehow geared to the production of us!-I agree with dhw on this. If God wanted to create beings to "respond" to him, then why do we (those who supposedly have been created for that purpose) have to argue, fight and kill over what we believe about his intentions? And what kind of "relationship" can any of us really have anyway - at least until the afterlife? Certainly, while in this life, none of us have a face to face relationship with God - so is there really a relationship at all - doesnt a relationship at least take two? -If we have been created just to respond to him or to be his entertainment (like a movie - only more real to us that are playing the parts), then God would obviously not only have a very great ego, he would also be quite a sadistic voyeur as well. Which we humans consider a person like that very base and the lowest of low life's.-On the other hand, putting myself into the place of ONE such eternal being with all power to create - instead of creating life, and becoming a watcher and a fiddler of it - I would become life itself. Become it in such a multitude of ways as to experience any and every possible way of being and experience it all fully. But the only way to do that, to truly experience ALL things exclusively as one thing, I would have to close the door to the true knowledge of who - I AM. -If you took a moment and put yourself in that ONE eternal being billions of years ago, you would do the same. Of course we cannot know anything for sure - but doesnt that kinda make this hypothesis more credible? We can know NOTHING for sure, but - I AM.