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by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, September 07, 2009, 06:58 (5338 days ago) @ David Turell

If the suspicion of many a researcher is correct and a consciousness arises from this machine without direct intervention by a human being, it will resolve the origin of consciousness question. This, is a big deal. Do we then grant such sentient machines the same rights as humans?
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> I'm sorry. I'm with Penrose. If a Pet scan lights up the amygdala, you still don't know all the connections,or exactly how it functions. Pet scans tell us functions of areas. Not how to connect the billions upon billions of neurons thru trillions of synapses. AI will always be AI and there will be no consciousness, no matter how big the computer power-Faith. And raw, at that. The work here hasn't been done yet. I feel you underestimate human ingenuity! -On this topic I'll accept your claim only when its proven--computers are my raison d'etre, mon ami. I've been reading on neural net computing, and those guys are on to something, and on to something huge. It might end up being perceptual intelligence only, but if we are going to create a consciousness it's going to be resting squarely on that subfield. And if it fails, any hope of sentient AI dies with it--and then you shall be correct. But only then, not before. -Programming for AI is completely different than programming for say, the browser you use. The stuff we use (and I routinely program) is entirely mechanistic and determined. AI programming is exactly the opposite; you have to teach AI to do what it does. We can handle the earliest stages of perceptual intelligence. I tremble at what will become available as we learn how to turn the internet into a neural net.-You'll be noticing over the next 5 years or so, the internet is going to be alot more spooky in how it finds you related information. Web 2.0 technology is building ontological thinking into the internet, a milestone on many levels. Kurzweil's singularity might become a reality. -Optimistic? I'm a technologist after all... only one way for me to be...

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