NDE\'s and skeptics (Identity)

by David Turell , Wednesday, September 02, 2009, 23:20 (5559 days ago) @ xeno6696

http://www.skepdic.com/nde.html 
 
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> "Reports of Christians meeting Muhammad or Muslims meeting Christ or Jews meeting Guru Nanak, if they exist, have not been publicized."
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> [EDIT] And apparently Ketamine can be used to completely recreate the experience!-According to one researcher, and denied by another. THESE EXPERIENCES ARE VERY SIMILAR GENERALLY AS I NOTE BELOW. What is described by that website is questionable.-I've read many of the authors quoted in your skeptical website. Why does those skeptics twist what has been written by exclusion: In van Lommel's Lancet article, the man who lost his teeth when having a flat EKG and EEG is not mentioned by the skeptics. He recognized the face of the nurse who took them a week later when he was awake! He even described the room he was in. Remember his eyes were shut. -One of the most important parts of the article is missing from the skeptics description. Why? To shade the truth. The researchers prospectively graded the NDE's as from simple to complex and then the patients were followed for ensuing mortality. The complex ones had a duration time to mortality earlier, and statistically, significantly different than the simple ones.-I read many of the authors mentioned in the website: Moody, Sabom, Ring, Greyson, Blackmore, PMH Atwater, with whom I have had phone and email conversations. Blackmore is a typical half-baked skeptic who needs a lesson in human physiology. In dying to Live, 1993 half her objections were off the wall. I've had my patients talk to me about these. They are NOT hallucinations. I know one when I hear one, believe me. They are generally very similar. Many are 'good' but there are bad ones. People see only their own religion if religion is involved, which is not that common. They only see the dead or communicate with them. What your website does not allude to is the information some of these people receive during the experience that they could not have known beforehand, i.e. of another's recent death.-Moody challenged Sabom who did not believe Moody's assertions. Sabom (Cardiologist) started to inquire of his patients and became convinced of Moody's assertion. Do some real reading. Skeptical websites are untrustworthy when I compare what I know was written and reported, and what they describe as having been presented.