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[EDIT] > When Fred takes his demon story to me, all I can do is provide what I think based on my perspective. However, it is two things, firstly, it is my examination based on his words, which may or may not be wholly accurate. Secondly, his perspective shapes his retelling of the events, and further removes me from the actual event itself. There is far too much subjectivity here to be able to *study* it. - I think you are perfectly right about Fred. All he is telling you is self-contained material. But in many near to death (NDE) episodes, events occur which the comatose patient describes accurately as far as third party witnesses are concerned. The same is true in out of the body (OOB)experiences with third person corroboration of the events. A study is proceeding now with hospices to collect a large number of these. I've mentioned this before, but a collation of these events may yield some interesting material that can be considered 'scientific results'. If an event is not corroborated, then, of course, that event remains subjective.
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