Current science; fraudulent thinking (Introduction)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Saturday, May 23, 2015, 17:24 (3471 days ago) @ David Turell

David: We are back to the same discussion as before. I believe in an uncaused first cause. The time we experience is in this universe. We have not and probably cannot imagine 'before' this universe. But if there is a first cause there is a 'before'. We experience time in this universe as a series of sequential events.
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> > Tony: I think all this just gets muddied up by thinking of time as some kind of tangible thing. It's not. It is simply the framework we use to explain a sequence of events. Even an uncaused first cause, would experience the same sense of a 'sequence of events'. It may not perceive them in the same manner as we do, because it's perspective would be vastly different from our own, but it would still perceive them.
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>David: It seems as if you are equating God's perception of time with ours. I suspect God does not care about time nor perhaps even notice it.-Actually, I explicitly stated that his perception of time is NOT like our own. Although, all things considered I disagree about God 'not caring' about time. I think God cares about time the same way a designer who is living outside the framework of his design cares about any element of that design. He understands its importance and its relation to every other aspect of the design. From a biblical standpoint, God is indeed intimately aware of time, and is in fact quite punctual. Coupled with all of the biological, astrological, and geological events are extremely time dependent, I conclude that God cares about time very much indeed. Not the way we do, and not for the reasons we do, but he does care about it.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.