An attack on modern science (The limitations of science)

by David Turell , Friday, January 30, 2015, 01:22 (3368 days ago) @ dhw


> DAVID: No I can't. How long do you want to watch a rock to see if it will do anything? Or become something else? Perhaps you should define the ‘matter' you are envisioning.
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> dhw: The rock is the matter I am envisioning, as are the stars, planets, meteors, dust and gases, plus the 95% of dark energy and matter that make up our own universe. You claim that the first cause is conscious energy. If this is true, all matter came from that energy, and whether it's one or a zillion universes, the same principle has to apply: energy and matter endlessly being transformed. If you can have your conscious energy transforming itself, why I can't I have my unconscious energy transforming itself?-I'm trying to imagine you unconscious and writing a play, as an example of how preposterous your theory is.-> dhw: In case you've forgotten my point, it is that Smolin and Unger's preference for a single universe in a succession of universes would shorten the odds against one of those universes coming up with a combination of materials to engender some form of awareness.-I'm with Smolin and Unger as is George! I think it is possible that God has done this before, one universe at a time. Eternity is very long. As for awareness from rocks, no way.