An attack on modern science (The limitations of science)
dhw: What appeals to me is that there is no beginning. [...] In the second scenario of non-conscious energy, if it can mindlessly create one universe by turning itself into matter, it can mindlessly create a succession of universes the same way.-DAVID: Your proposal contains a big IF. Philosophically speaking ‘mindlessness' creates nothing.-Dhw: Philosophically speaking, how do you know?-DAVID: Because I can think. Our only experience with planning is use of the mind. Sudden mysterious appearance of complexity without proper mental planning is called a miracle. I view the origin of life that way.-I was not talking about planning or about life but about non-conscious energy forming a succession of universes. Unless you have suddenly become a convert to a form of panpsychism, I don't see how you can be so sure that mindless matter can't create things. Can you not imagine universes full of stars and planets and meteors and rocks and dust and gases WITHOUT life? The result of energy and matter endlessly transforming themselves? Universes without planet Earth?
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