Negative atheism? (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 20:14 (3629 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: And how does a blob of eternal energy acquire a planning consciousness? -Because the eternal energy has always been conscious. For a proper first cause to have the potential to create complexity it has to have always been that way.-> 
> dhw: Can you really imagine a form of energy that has always been conscious of itself? -As stated, that is the way first cause starts.-
> dhw:I find that just as difficult to imagine as consciousness evolving through ever changing matter, which would also produce the attributes we see.-So do I. -> 
> dhw: You keep shifting your line of attack. I was answering your criticism that the alternative scenario represented something out of nothing or nowhere. It doesn't. As far as planning is concerned, I have explained many times that it would come from within countless, ever evolving intelligences working together.-I don't shift anything. You keep avoiding the obvious. Where do your intelligences come from? Do they plan as a committee? Or could they be different aspects of one universal intelligence, which panpsychism might represent.-> 
> dhw: Which is like saying that if you plan to make an omelette, you must make a Yorkshire pudding, a shepherd's pie, and a cheesecake as well. (And then throw them away.)-Anthropomorphic reasoning. We are discussing evolving life, a marked level above acting as a chef.