Religion: pros & cons pt1 (Religion)
PART TWO dhw: In my view, stoning someone to death because they worship a different God, or because they are drunkards or gluttons (regardless of how often they've been told to mend their ways) is vicious. -TONY: What if the God they worshiped burned their children alive on the alter? Would you kill them then? Would it be considered "vicious" to eradicate those people? [...] You do realize that there are specific nations mentioned in Chapter 7, right? These were Baal worshiping nations. (Burning their kids in the fire and all that.) Those nations were indeed committed to complete and utter annihilation.-Which I assume includes annihilating mothers and their children, since Chap. 20 also says: “you must not allow any breathing thing to live”. Much better for them to be slaughtered wholesale by the Jews than individually by their own people, I suppose. Chap. 7 talks about them serving other gods, burning graven images etc. This suggests to me that by extension it is OK to slaughter people who worship any God other than the god of the OT. Such thinking has been and still is the basis of faith-based murder. You seem to approve of stoning habitual drunkards and gluttons to death, and the rest of your post appears to defend the practice of conquering foreign countries and, if they don't surrender, killing the men and using the women and children as one pleases. You also seem quite happy with the humiliating arrangements detailed in 21:10-14. Such texts can be used to justify slavery, sex slavery, child abuse....My point is that I don't regard them as a reliable guide for how we should behave, no matter what slant you put on them. -*******-I have drafted a reply to your somewhat puzzling post of yesterday concerning what you wrote about evolutionists, but I think this is enough for today! I'll post it tomorrow.
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