The Issue of Chance: Godel\'s Theorem (Evolution)

by Matt S. , Thursday, June 04, 2009, 21:56 (5993 days ago) @ George Jelliss

Mr. Jelliss, - I raised it in the (introductions) part of my thread and Turell repeated a bit about the theory that is abused by creationists. My discussion of it followed on that line. - As for the Godel's theorem, can you give me some more nuts and bolts to work on in there? Can I use mathematical notation to shorten this? - R = Real numbers (too broad to simply define)
Z = Integers {...-1,0,1,2,...}
N = Natural numbers {0,1,2,...}
a + or - indicates the subset of positive or negative numberrs. - I'm aware of the infinitude's and the general properties of R and N but Godel's theorem had little to do with that. - R of course does contain the set of N, but I don't see why my argument fails here... - I assume its the better ability for measurement that you ascribe to R? That is what I was thinking. Ah... I see my problem. - I said "Natural science is *based* on R." Not true. Natural science *uses* R. BIG difference. A drastic misstep of verbiage. - As to why I brought it up in regards to contributing to my agnosticism/atheism, it showed me in a concrete why that there are certain limits to mathematics, and for awhile I tried to think about physics as an axiomatic system... but I know better than that now.