Hitchens addresses Intelligent Design (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 16:09 (4415 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: But the fence has two sides and two areas, and as a boundary there is something in both of them. If the other side for you is the possibility of chance, remember chance is a concept, and is not material or energy. What is left is pure energy.
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> dhw: This is casuistry. On one side is the concept of design, on the other the concept of chance. On one side is conscious energy, on the other unconscious energy.-Good. I will accept the chance side of the equation as unconscious energy, and add that unconsciousness implies no pattern, therefore totally unorganized energy in a random state. And you will then assert that this amorphous mass of energy somehow got organized into the classses of particles wwe have found in scientific atom smashing. In your chance state there are no organized classes of symmetrical particles. Chance energy has to be raw energy, lacking all organizaation, and by chance gets to what we see today. To me a pipe dream.

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