Hitchens addresses Intelligent Design (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, October 22, 2012, 19:39 (4392 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: on what I see as the utter impersonality of the cosmos and of Nature here on Earth, and on the inconceivability of a conscious mind that has existed for ever and is on such a vast scale that it can create universes.-Can you avoid the idea that something has to be eternal? One does not get something from nothing. The famous question, why is there anything?, has an answer. There has always been an eternal something.-> David: Ever since humans began to think, they have assumed a divine level.[/i]-Research into primative societies has shown this over and over.-
> David, I think your "wall of quantum uncertainty" is a fine, scientific-sounding term for my agnostic picket fence.-But the fence has two sides and two areas, and as a boundary there is something in both of them. If the other side for you is the possibility of chance, remember chance is a concept, and is not material or energy. What is left is pure energy.