ABEL\'S UNIVERSE (General)

by dhw, Sunday, November 20, 2011, 19:33 (4561 days ago) @ Abel

Dhw: Your gods, who were themselves descended from predators, deliberately introduced it [predation] to life on Earth. What does this tell us about their nature?

A selection of quotes from Abel’s reply: “...men have become divorced from their instincts.” “The brain constantly lies and rationalizes as it tries to provide for its emotional and physical needs.” “They [the Elohim] have given you teachers to guide you. Teachers that you fools have routinely slaughtered as heretics.”

What does any of this have to do with the question? I’m not sure what you hope to prove by calling us fools (and like Tony, I’ve never slaughtered anyone), but if you genuinely wish to teach us something yourself, please take a tip from someone who spent over 30 years working with high calibre university students as well as with some renowned professors. First, learn to answer questions; second, pay attention when your students and colleagues complain that your arguments are sometimes impossible to follow; third, try to be consistent and clear in your use of terminology; fourth, show them some respect, not just because respect is integral to good relations, but also because it may well be that they know more than you do about certain things.

Dhw: Please tell me where I have wondered “why was there suffering” or said that there was no need for the ability to feel pain. The subject was the need for predation, and in the post to which you are replying I wrote: “Of course life and Nature are based on the concept of equilibrium, but you don’t need predation for equilibrium, for suffering, or for death.”

In your reply, Abel, you repeat the above quote, and your comment is: “I, of course, took this to be you complaining again.”

You, “of course”, have found no material to support the straw man you built, and your reply is yet another not very polite evasion.

In your post of 02 November at 21.21: under Intelligent Design you wrote: “I am a great believer in the truth and logic and perfection.” Amid the chaos of your posts there’s no doubt much to learn and ponder, and initially your unusual ideas were given a warm welcome, but now it seems that all of us independently are having trouble finding much truth, logic and perfection in your responses to us. Dismiss us as fools if that helps you.

Le monde est plein de fous, et qui n’en veut pas voir
Doit se tenir tout seul, et casser son miroir.

(If you don’t speak French, this will help you to understand why some of us get so frustrated by your recondite terminology. If you do, I hope it will make you laugh.)