Evolution, Science & Religion (Evolution)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Friday, June 22, 2012, 21:37 (4326 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Back it up with evidence. I've got reams of literature and research showing how badly ...
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> > 1. Antibiotics. Without which, common infections would result in millions of more deaths in a year. 
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> Which are also responsible for creating antibiotic resistant mutations that make them even worse than the original. 
> -Caught ya... you didn't read my whole post before responding. (Do that.)-This is a conversation worth having, because I just had a morality discussion with a Christian friend of mine who espoused a similar view as you here. -When we invented antibiotics... we had no idea that bacteria were capable of evolution, we certainly didn't even know about DNA. -To me, your argument against antibiotics here is precisely what you just said you didn't believe: That because we don't know everything, we shouldn't do anything. -You and I are very different on this point. If we have the power to do something, we are obligated to do it. Especially when we're talking about an area of pure unknowns--we have no choice but to fly blind. -Now, we know that bacteria evolve. -So to me, your argument is: "We should stop creating new antibiotics." -We have. Unfortunately, because drug companies no longer think they're profitable. (And when you consider that 85% of Americans are Christian, the same goes for the drug companies, underlining my point that spirituality has nothing to do with morality.) Off my soapbox...-We didn't create the problem of resistant bacteria. Nature created it. You can argue until you're blue in the face that antibiotic resistance is our fault, but to me, unless you demonstrate that MAN created bacteria, WE had nothing to do with how bacteria evolved to counteract our poisons. -So... do we stop working to save human lives?

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