Evolution, Science & Religion (Evolution)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Friday, June 22, 2012, 21:17 (4325 days ago) @ David Turell

People thinking that they are above the natural order. People thinking that because "this is all there is", that they must get absolutely everything out of this life and damn the consequences of their actions. I will admit that my experiences have given me a very negative view of humanity as a whole. I have been around the world and I have seen nothing to make me as optimistic as you are. In nearly every country I have been too I have witnessed violence, starvation, deprivation, poverty, and death first hand. With the exception of Iraq, I didn't even stay that long in most of them. A 'feel-good' book about how great we are is not reflected in reality. Take a trip to Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Africa, China, North Korea, or even just down to Mexico and tell me how great humanity is.
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> You are describing those parts of the world that have never accepted, or have the background for accepting, a form of moral capitalism. Not that unbridled capitalism doesn't need some regulation, but the Western philosophic background of the USA made us very successful, notwithstanding the current Washington idiocy. That is why simply imposing democracy on Iraq is crazy. Or trying it in Afganistan, which is even worse. The US is inundated by those who want to come here, rather than try to change it at home.-I'm responding to this only to emphatically endorse your statement here.

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