Evolution, Science & Religion (Evolution)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Saturday, June 23, 2012, 11:55 (4319 days ago) @ David Turell


> > And like you (sort of) point to at the end of your post. Even if knew beforehand of the possibility antibiotic strains we would have developed the very same antibiotics to help save people's lives. We would have been a lot more cautious of their widespread use though.
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> The really horrible bugs and the resistence are in the hospitals, where surgeons routinely gave antibiotics just to make sure everything stayed sterile. That was in my time. I hope they are not doing that now. How about the Tetracycline given to cattle to help them grow faster into the butcher shop faster? Some of this stuff involved dollar signs. The companies are running out of bacteria- lethal fungi to find new antibiotics. Things like penicillin, Streptomycin were naturally occurring antibiotics, but there are othr ways to screw up a bacterium. Mess up their outer membrane for example. That kind of research will always go on, and with folks like Shapiro around there will be great success.-Man.. feel like I am taking a beating here LOL. Look, what I am trying to get through to you guys is that even when we KNOW something is wrong, even when we KNOW for a fact that it is going to cause more heartache down the road, we continue to do it. If that is not a sure sign of being dysfunctional then I don't know what is. We knew about adaptation before we developed antibiotics, as has already been pointed out. We also knew about the body's immune system, though not in as great of detail as we do today. Our bodies have been naturally dealing with harmful bacteria for hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of years, and instead of choosing to assist the natural function, we chose to poison ourselves in the hopes of artificially killing the bug. At the end of the day, it comes down to money. There is no money in health, only health care. -I am not arguing against attempting to save lives. I am not arguing against knowledge of the natural world. I am not even arguing that in some really rare special cases that an antibiotic could possibly be used to save someones life in a manner that doesn't cause further damage down the road. Contrary to what Matt believes, I am not even saying that we should do nothing. I am simply saying that we should align our efforts to work in harmony with the natural system which we are part of instead of trying to impose our poorly designed rules on it.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.