Can\'t avoid a creation (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 23:20 (4697 days ago) @ David Turell

How to prove me wrong:

1. Demonstrate time has a physical reality.

I know you blow me off on this, but it is a FACT that there is no physical basis for time.
You want to challenge me with NDE, I challenge you with time.

How do you handle space-time, Einstein fashion? Physics formulae say time can run in both directions. Can you explain. I don't understand either your statements or the spacetime statements.

Some of this I think I've covered before... so if it's repetitive, I'm sorry.

Einstein dealt with time by not treating it as a distinct entity--as had everyone before him.

He subsumed time into the concept of distance. (space, hence space-time) This allows you to be able to reason in terms of events, but also means that time is no longer a physically "real" thing. To be succinct: Time is relative, based on the positions of at least two objects, not a property of the universe as say, atoms, or light.

Time can therefore run in two directions, because you can look at an event, and for the sake of abstraction--you can play the event in reverse. Since time has been subsumed into the idea of "distance," (again, synonymous with "space") any event that you can track according to it's relationship in space allows you to "go back in time." Hence, why when we look at a star, we're looking at history--not the present. (Betelgeuse probably detonated a long time ago...)

Above, I put "reason" in italics. I did this purposefully--because reasoning is the only thing that time is. It's an arbitrary... distance between two events.

If you understand what I said above, you understand Einstein's defense of an infinite universe.

In the back of my mind: Einstein may be our Aristotle... we may find in 1000 years that all his ideas were wrong... hence the tension between relativity and quantum mechanics.

But the way things are now...

Time is NOT of the essence of our universe...

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"