Can\'t avoid a creation (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 21:46 (4675 days ago) @ David Turell

David,

I've spoken before about the non-existence of time, that the only reason we can have time is because we can see things move.

Our scientists say time started with the Big Bang. And yes, since the BB things move.

That doesn't mean time is real. We've discussed this before: There is no physical reality for time, Big Bang or not. The underlying implication is that the universe itself is uncreated. Meaning panentheism is not dead, but knowing that our knowledge stops at the singularity, it is hubris to assert we know anything.

How to prove me wrong:

1. Demonstrate time has a physical reality.

I know you blow me off on this, but it is a FACT that there is no physical basis for time.
You want to challenge me with NDE, I challenge you with time.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"